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theshaneler June 24th, 2011 22:47

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Originally Posted by Drayen (Post 1489799)
the posties could be working, but management won't let them.
they were willing to work under their old contract but CP shot that idea down in favour of locking them out to force the gov't to do something.

shame on CP for all the damage it's willing to do to this country because they feel workers should be legislated back instead of bargaining in good faith.


CP lost over 100 million dollars in a week of rolling strikes, why should they be forced corporately to suffer massive losses when the union is the one who decided to strike in the first place.

do you know how many unemployed people in this country would kill for a job that pays $19 an hour.... shit, do you know how many EMPLOYED people would kill for that?

Styrak June 24th, 2011 23:12

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Originally Posted by The Mexinadian (Post 1490088)
How many privatized mail delivery services does Canada have? Trust me I'm effected by the strike too. Waiting on a damn refund =/

There's UPS, Canpar (which is really just UPS as well but they carry dangerous goods), Fedex, DHL, Purolator.

Maybe others but I'm not sure.

The Mexinadian June 24th, 2011 23:40

Are Businesses even trying to change their mail/packages to these privatized companies?! Cause that's what I'd do... Like I said It's affecting us too. I ordered a Jersey from Team Canada's Shop. And they were gracious enough to ship it out of the US. Even though it took a while. none the less I need a refund on something and Canada post is taking it's time sorting out this Labour dispute to where I'm short damn near $100 USD.

tygr701 June 25th, 2011 00:03

Just about to start a vote on the c-6 bill common pass this please!

Styrak June 25th, 2011 01:04

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Originally Posted by The Mexinadian (Post 1490140)
Are Businesses even trying to change their mail/packages to these privatized companies?! Cause that's what I'd do... Like I said It's affecting us too. I ordered a Jersey from Team Canada's Shop. And they were gracious enough to ship it out of the US. Even though it took a while. none the less I need a refund on something and Canada post is taking it's time sorting out this Labour dispute to where I'm short damn near $100 USD.

A bunch of the airsoft/parts retailers here are changing to UPS or something else temporarily.

T-Hell June 25th, 2011 02:13

UPS within Canada is fine
From the US to Canada Epic Fail....

Tex June 25th, 2011 02:40

Yeah most of the stores I order pc parts from are doing Purolator shipping now instead of CP. I also got some brewing stuff that usually goes CP but the store sent it with a small local courier service instead.

Funny I had thought Purolator was part of CP they are what 80-90% crown owned but I guess they are separate from CP seeings how this has not effected them.

Drayen June 25th, 2011 03:41

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Originally Posted by theshaneler (Post 1490099)
CP lost over 100 million dollars in a week of rolling strikes, why should they be forced corporately to suffer massive losses when the union is the one who decided to strike in the first place.

do you know how many unemployed people in this country would kill for a job that pays $19 an hour.... shit, do you know how many EMPLOYED people would kill for that?

that 100million figure is kinda shakey in my mind but beside's that, let's look at the timeline and then play the blame game.
-CUPW went on a rolling strike designed to slow down the mail.
-they then agreed to continue working under the previous contract whilst negotiations continue CP management refused
-CP starts to cut the mail service to 3 days a week
-CP locks out their workers...

i've been watching CPAC off and on for the past day, hell, me n a friend were up till 5am last night havin a few beers and watching parliament in action. I totally agree with what the NDP, Libs, Bloc, and Green want to do. Don't legislate the worker's back to work under what the Harper Gov't says. Legislate CANADA POST to unlock it's doors and negotiate under the previous contract.

Ronald Chang June 25th, 2011 07:37

I wrote to NDP to express my discontent of their deliberate delay of passing the back to work legislation. The loss of my business has reahed a unbearable level as a result of the strike.

I will keep writing to them to let them know how angry I am at their stupid political tricks, which do more harm than any good to the whole matter!

coach June 25th, 2011 08:47

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 1490201)
Yeah most of the stores I order pc parts from are doing Purolator shipping now instead of CP. I also got some brewing stuff that usually goes CP but the store sent it with a small local courier service instead.

Funny I had thought Purolator was part of CP they are what 80-90% crown owned but I guess they are separate from CP seeings how this has not effected them.

Purolator is owned by CP.

What people don't know is that purolator is cheaper than CP. For us at work it's typically about 2/3's cheaper!! We also have a local same day courier that is even cheaper. All of our web transactions are processed with expedited parcel but if the customer notes it as a business address, we'll send it purolator or same day courier as we require a signature on every outbound package. CP is just a convenience for our customers that want stuff sent to residential addresses.

Juke16 June 25th, 2011 09:31

Can't the Conservative government just steamroll this bill through?

whisper_kill June 25th, 2011 09:46

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Originally Posted by Drayen (Post 1490207)
that 100million figure is kinda shakey in my mind but beside's that, let's look at the timeline and then play the blame game.
-CUPW went on a rolling strike designed to slow down the mail.
-they then agreed to continue working under the previous contract whilst negotiations continue CP management refused
-CP starts to cut the mail service to 3 days a week
-CP locks out their workers...

i've been watching CPAC off and on for the past day, hell, me n a friend were up till 5am last night havin a few beers and watching parliament in action. I totally agree with what the NDP, Libs, Bloc, and Green want to do. Don't legislate the worker's back to work under what the Harper Gov't says. Legislate CANADA POST to unlock it's doors and negotiate under the previous contract.

What were employees being paid while they were performing this "rolling strike"? Full wages? CP wages + union subsidy? I'm just curious, because if my staff performed a rolling strike, it would render my business ineffective, and I would've done the same damn thing!

tygr701 June 25th, 2011 11:33

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Originally Posted by Ronald Chang (Post 1490217)
I wrote to NDP to express my discontent of their deliberate delay of passing the back to work legislation. The loss of my business has reahed a unbearable level as a result of the strike.

I will keep writing to them to let them know how angry I am at their stupid political tricks, which do more harm than any good to the whole matter!

Did the same lol and Olivia Chow wrote me back

Quote:

Dear Richard,

Thank you for writing to me about the Canada Post lockout.

Postal workers showed good faith by continuing to deliver mail on a rotating basis in order to minimise the impact on Canadians while they were negotiating with Canada Post Corporation. Unfortunately, CPC chose to stop and block all mail delivery by locking out the postal workers. So instead of sitting around the negotiating table, postal workers have been forced out onto the streets.

The NDP remains committed to trying to reason with the government to lift the lock-out so that negotiations between the two parties can resume.

Thanks again for your e-mail.

Sincerely,
Olivia Chow, MP
Trinity-Spadina

Reckless June 25th, 2011 12:57

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Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1490228)
Purolator is owned by CP.

What people don't know is that purolator is cheaper than CP. For us at work it's typically about 2/3's cheaper!! We also have a local same day courier that is even cheaper. All of our web transactions are processed with expedited parcel but if the customer notes it as a business address, we'll send it purolator or same day courier as we require a signature on every outbound package. CP is just a convenience for our customers that want stuff sent to residential addresses.

most local (and some larger) couriers are cheaper for packages then CP for overnight in a "1 day" distance radius ... they start getting expensive when it HAS to be X today and stuff like that...

Dingo June 25th, 2011 13:42

Ok so im really confused here. I know that I cant recive a package thats sent by CP, but someone mentioned a jersey to him from the states. I want to order a new ghillie from http://www.ghilliesuitclothing.com/ and theyre in the states, but after the package gets into canada will it not be held up?


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