Their in-store computer shows they are supposed to carry the broxas. They are backordered though as they don't have any to ship from the states or even any for the US mail order catalogue- maybe waiting on Aftermath to ship them more. I think the Broxa was on clearance. I can't remember, but I think they said there was a standing order for some that they are waiting to be filled.
Apparently the manager is trying to get the Lycao in, for which they do have stock in the US. Hopefully we'll see those in a couple weeks.

oh yeah, apparently there is also another TF-16 that is on order but they said it should arrive sometime this week.

The lycaon is crap! wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole! If the broxa is 3/4 as good as the kraken then I'll pick one up!

ya Lycaon is crap,, dont buy it unless plan on using it as a project gun

I was at bass pro shops today. The Broxa revolution finally arrived, but price is now $150. They got lots more krakens today (18 I think).

holy shit they sell like hotcakes 18 krakens you say, I was at Basspro just an hour before they closed and all they had was shitsoft and Crosman g3's. Tatical force MP7's are also being sold at $99 if I remembered correctly but they too where sold out.

You may have just missed it then. They stock in the morning and were refreshing some of their stock at 9:30pm before close. They only put enough of each item to fill their pegs at a time so when it sells out it looks like they are out of everything, but they may have lots more in the back. With the krakens and broxas, that's three boxes only on the shelf at a time.

Best bet is to go in the morning when they have restocked, or at night when they may have new shipments still in the back waiting to be stocked. Or you can try to get someone to go back and look for you, but good luck with that.

The Broxa looks so stupid.
http://hires.basspro.com/is/servlet/...0,0&iccEmbed=0

yea. its awkwardly shaped... just looks weird to me
never seen an mp5 with a front like that before. almost looks as if its an mp5 thats trying to look a little like a g3

saw a kraken in our cabelas catalog....... lots of clear

A standard MP5 front end can replace that....

Are you sure that it is the Broxa and not a Tactical Force TF5 that BassPro has?
I was just there yesterday morning and the only guns with metal gearboxes were the Kraken, Tactical Force TF7, and Tactical Force TF16 (out of stock)

BTW the staff is real busy right now (and seem quite irritable too) with their big sale and everything. I saw one guy making inventory notes in the airgun dept., so who knows if they'll be bringing more in soon or not. He told me that the only models they had were those which were on display.

yep 100% it's a aftermath broxa evolution. $149.99. When I went they had just put them out and didn't even have a spot for them. they were just on the shelf under the TF7's.
If you call, you can ask them to check and see if they are in yet. you can quote number from the website - 38-888-976-00 :

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults

or ask them to check their SKU number -1374299.

it's new, but they are supposed to be stocking the broxas.

Thanks, Gambut.

Been looking at reviews on the Broxa, and it looks like a decent starter gun for me that's TM compatible. Metal lowcaps are available from buyairsoft.ca.

Cheers!

I'm not sure if this information has been posted or not (if so please pardon me).

I'm from Xtreme Tactics in Winnipeg MB and we see lots of Krakens coming in (either for gaming or servicing). And I think the following would be a good bit of info to know:

1. The Krakens that comes with the "black" hop up chambers (newer batch) shoots "hotter" (on average they chrono at low 400FPS) while the older batch with comes with "white" hop up chambers typically chrono's at around 300-330FPS.

2. 90% of the Krakens we have in for servicing (not shooting/no response problems) is due to an excessive amount of grease by the trigger contacts.

Hope that helps

Gord

wow yea that is good to know cuz i have a lot of lithium grease, bearing oil, and cylinder oil in mine. hope it all stays where its sposed to be and doesnt migrate up in the trigger area

that was EXACTLY the problem I had with mine! What with the heat and humidity we've had around here....I can only imagine that the goo became more viscous and gravity took over. it migrated right down into the trigger area. After having my buddy take it apart, he cleaned her up and now the Kraken works like a charm.

if you go to bass pro shops.com the kraken pic looks rely weird is that what the one they retail actually looks like?

Heres a good pic of a Kraken.

i have the kraken aftermath AK-47 too, I gotta say I love the gun i have the black skin for mine tho. It it an amazing gun good fps fast shooting speed and also. I highly recommend this gun. I just recently purchased 10 new mid capacity mags because i find hi-cap make too much noise when moving. I am still waiting for them to get here but cant wait for them to get here. I ordered them or ehobbyaisa which has great prices! On my AK I have a tasco 30x red dot scope, i went to walmart and bought it for 50$ it works great!

yeah this a is pretty good loaning/renting gun its cheap works pretty well and if he ever wants to buy it EASILY upgradable with tm parts and others

Were can i find a full metal body for this tough? i havent looked too hard but i seriously dont have much time lately:D

Get age verified.

I used to own one myself, aside from the shoddy battery, the gun is a newbies dream, Its Newb freindly, easily upgradable, weighted in the right places and a nice marui clone, My only complaints are that the front sight is slightly off to the side. I'm an iron sight user most of the time and that really erked me. However, I do plan on purchasing another one of these as soon as possible :)
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My brother has this gun. Personally i think its amazing, i want to use it more then my own AEG! haha.

Cabellas kraken
 

for some reason the kraken on Cabellas says that it only shoots 300 fps with a .12 gram bb is that true or bullshit?

its bullshit. I had one that shot 400fps with .2's

rember that there is susposed to be 2 different versons of the kraken. one is the kraken and the other is actualy called the X47 http://www.shootsoft.ca/clearsoft/pr...roducts_id=102

oh wow, that one doesn't look to great. think I'll stick to the kraken :)

in the process of getting age verified...but quick question. If this ABS plastic is really high-strength, then should it not be superior to the CYMA pot metal?
Also this has been bothering me for sooo long, but I couldn't figure it out. If you are in Canada, and you only consider Ak 47 airsoft, not 74s, or 47s or ak74su...or anything else. Is the cyma cm042, the Kalash rk-06, or the Kraken a better choice? I think my question is pretty relevent to the topic at hand? No hijacking.

Doubtful.
Not sure I understand the question. There are a lot of people who use all kinds of AKs, not to mention H&Ks, Armalites, and other types...they're all considered airsoft. Where did you hear that "only" the AK-47 was airsoft?

Yea sorry for putting it like that. I meant to say that only considering the AK 47 as a gun to choose from. I do not want to consider the rk-01 for example from Kalash even though it is full steel now, because it is not an AK47..and same goes for anything else. I know I am narrowing my choices. But understand that I really like the AK47 look. I hate the cut short muzzles, and folding stocks. I know there are all kinds of airsoft guns lol. BUt whick AK from the Kalash rk06 (the latest full wood, half-steel AK). I think its called the rk-06. The cyma cm042, or the Kraken. Which is best?

I still don't get it. There are hundreds of types and sub-types of airsoft guns. This thread is discussing the Aftermath Kraken, which happens to be an AK-47, and is one of the better "budget" guns. If you don't want an AK, don't buy one.

lol...no i DO want an AK...I am asking if the Kraken, or the CYMA cm042, or the Kalash rk-05 isbest. What I said previously was I don't want to know about variants of the AK apart from the AK47..

Ah ok... now I get it ;)

Yea, the Kraken is probably the best of the low-budget AK's. It's also the most easily accessible. Of course, its still a long way from a non-budget gun.

thanks for the response. it is good to have direction when choosing a gun.

you should always look yourself and choose yourself for an airsoft gun so matter what experts say its your personal choice as long as you can fix anything that breaks easily its good :) lol

There is a degree of truth to this. That's why we always say go to a game first and ask to see some equipment. That way you can get a feel for the different gun types and what is most comfortable for you. For me personally, I find AK's very uncomfortable. Just believe us when we say crap is crap :)

:D i posted something usefull ! haha lol but for me i like the looks of AK47 and feel of an m4 or m16 i should make a AK/M monster lmao

i understand that well enough...and i know how vital it must be to be able to tote around your weapon of choice without lagging in hits, or just being slow to react because of your gun. But I have some sort of affinity for AK47s that i cannot control. lol

The M series weaons are like the anti-christ. Never in my life will I buy one for airsoft. I am not ignorant though. I love any technological innovation that makes sense, and the M16 makes a lot of sense. But I can't explain the Ak thing. Alas, who can explain love?

when i used to live in edmonton i found a shop i think it was called wild west shooting (forgot the name) but it carried krakens for 149.99 last i checked back in may 2008

hey guys,

is the Kraken from Cabelas the same as everyone else is getting??

heres the link:
https://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?pag...2=1387&ID=3475

on their picture it seems the front end is clear too... different from other pictures i have seen.

also they state the FPS .12g BB 300

That looks about right....

so the front end is clear too? most other pictures i saw only the lower receiver is clear

That seems rather low.

The normal kraken shoots 370fps with .20g

anyone buy one of these before?? the price is 119...

get it, with $100-$200 in upgrades and you will have something worth 2.5 times more than any TM out there

... true i game my uber modified kracken at action commando and it's proven to be very reliable! and so sexy with a metal body!

I think the only issue I have with kraken's Is that the damn stock is to low if I put a scope on it :/

(I'll probably just make a new stock for myself to cover this issue)

I got the same question. Anyone has an answer?

there are two types of krakens mailnly sold, the cabelas 300 FPS is great for indoor games, and the pre upgraded ones shoot 370 FPS, they are only different in the springs, and the affect they have on FPS and rate of fire.
I bought a 300 FPS kraken from cabelas for $119 for indoor games, and 90 dollars on mags 90 dollar metal body 90 dollar wood kit, but the gun is epic win!

is the front end also clear? the piece that attach to the foregrip??

because on 370fps kraken the only clear part is the lower receiver right?

minor details ^^
Thats what paint was invented for!

The Cabelas Kraken front end [rear sight block] is not clear.

just in the picture, mines isnt with me and i never actually took a good look and noticed that lol, its brand new so i havent had it long

Are you sure your Kraken from cabelas fires at 300 fps? Did you chrono it?

There a couple versions of Krakens, you never know which one you will get. The older version has a white hopup and fires under 350 FPS according to the guys at Xtreme Tactics. Mine is the older version and I put an M90 spring in it before it ever saw a chrono.

havent had it chronied yet, its just what it says there

Manufacturers of clone guns are known to straight out lie about the FPS of the guns.

well its a good thing it was only 120 bucks then ^^
cheaper than real sword :P

If you want to know the fps, you could do the "poor man's chrono", or you could open the kraken and look at the hop up. If the hop up is white, it mean it is the first generation kraken shooting at 280-330 fps, and if the hop up is black, you have a second generation kraken shotting at 370-405 fps. All fps with .2 bb

And a phenomonally shittier gun.

Actually just because you have a white hopup doesn't mean lower FPS. The first Kraken I bought was clear and had the white hopup yet chrono'd in at 400fps with metaltech .2's.

End point is, they throw in whatever spring they have lieing around that day and the only really sure way to see what it is shooting at is to chronie it.

Although I have the one with the black hop up and after 25k rounds it chronos 380fps:p

Review of newer Kraken that comes in paper box- differences: It comes in a paper box! Yay! The screw threads on the half metal half plastic buttplate are plastic, and strip extremely easily, I've super super glued, then JB welded it together. I've reshimed, relubed, and replaced the sector gear with a TM one, and now it is actually very quiet, the spring is rediculous, and would probably push the gun to something like 420fps if it were not for the fact that nothing seals properly. (piston and cylinder head, nozzle) the hop-up rubber works fine, I get the same accuracy as any other stock AK pretty much. If you don't relube it out of the box, well, I saw some pretty funky green stuff flow out of the gaps of the box in about a week of basement plinking. During a game it was... Well I didn't fancy running around with a crappy looking clearsoft gun, but it worked fine, shot fine, and with the new shims and lube, was light on battery consumption, instead of the grinding noise and a hot battery after 1 mag when I just got it. By the way, it chronoed 380 in the middle of winter. The piston head pad has been glued on with magic or something, if you want to put a sorbo pad in, hats off to you, I gave up after stabbing myself twice in the finger. The plastic body has already cracked in various places, especially around the screw holes. If you are purely looking for performance... Well, might as well gamble with this one, you might get a lemon, but you might not. In the end, for around $160 ish, it's pretty fairly priced. (Also it's 18 guage wire)

How do you mount a scope on a Kraken AK47? I don't see any rails to mont on. I am looking at buying one of these from cabellas as well, but I am caught between this and the Aftermath Lycaon (MP5)...they both look like good performers.

buy a scope mount for an AK
Furniture with Rails
or do what the Insurgents do and duct tape it.

HEY all, I thought that the KRAKEN sold at Cabela's was made by firepower not aftermath..hence the differance..I just got off of their site and it said 300fps with.12.and a 400 rnd. mag..where as the aftermath is 370 to 380 fps with.20 and a 470 mag...the catalogue they sent me even said firepower beside the KRAKEN..I don't know but the weapon definately does not look the same as my aftermath KRAKEN..more clear part's on the firepower..just my observation..maybe a misprint on they're end..anyway make the best with what you have.. or can afford..beside's I'm sure we all started out with low end weapon's..even though my aftermath KRAKEN still freakin' rocks!

Does anyone happen to have a screen cap of the Cabelas.ca site where the Kraken AK-47 was listed @ $119. They have stock again and now the price is $179.99. They are flatout denying that they have ever listed it @ $119...what a bunch of turds, I should have ordered it when it was on backorder @ $119.00.

how do you pull out the butt of the gun? in the manual it says to pull down but it doesnt work, and i even tried unscrewing the butt and all i got was a plastic cover underneath.

push it down firmly

well, i just fielded my kraken last weekend with .20 and .25 and it owned. my friends were scared of it, and the whole other team were aiming for me because of the high rate of fire (750 to 850 a minute it says on the package) they couldn't move. it has nice speed on it, and it shot accurately for quite a long distance. I am very satisfied so far with this gun. If you are looking at buying it, I would suggest going to: velocityarms.ca
and getting the "Crazy Aftermath Kraken Package", it comes with 2000 .20 and 2000 .25, as well as 3 metal 600 round mags.

You must have been playing against people with shitty guns.

not really impressive.

The Kraken actually works about as well as anything I've ever come up against (the best being probably CAs), it just looks silly and makes a rather high piched noise when you shoot. But if you're a decent player, it's really all you need.

Until it brakes.

But then you just swap in some TM parts.

Well, like I always say.. the player makes the gun, not the other way around.

Picked one up for my starter gun and love it so far! Threw some Krylon on it for good measure.

From one newbie to another, here's a tip for taking off the orange tip! Remove the fake cleaning rod by pulling it down and out and unscrew the front sight. Put the sight with the orange tip under HOT running tap water for a minute or two, turning it every so often. Believe me when I say this thing is ON GOOD, and the hot water softens it just enough to make it possible to twist off with a set of pliers or grips.

http://i41.tinypic.com/10nf6fa.jpg

I am looking at this gun for a stater gun, and I was looking at the TF-16 but I read that it sucks. Which one of these would be a better deal? I would probably just paint the clear parts because it looks stupid.


http://velocityarms.ca/index.php?mai...products_id=94

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...SSSELL_PRODUCT

They're the exact same gun.

Just bought the gun for $190 before GST, worth the price? Nothing but default stock items such as battery, clear mag and what-not. And should I be looking into getting a 8.4V or 9.6V battery? Higher ROF or longer fire time? Which is better for this gun.

Wow oops, I posted the wrong link. Whatever, it doesn't matter anyways.

I'd go with velocity arm, little more pricey but if your gun comes broken they're more likely to replace it for you.

Plus, Frank at velocity arms is an awesome guy, and shipping is included in their prices

Ummm

Well a question :

Does it have a steel gearbax as many sites claim ? if yes the overall qualiry of the geabox ?


Why I am asking this ? I have an SLR-105 by CA ( AK-74 with polymer furniture ) with PSO-1 scope , anyways i repaired it a lot already but it seems the gearbox got old and fatiqed and well damaged . SO the google states that it has a steel box , the only other supposed gear box is the not yet released SRC box .

A Classic Army Version 3 mechbox should hold up fine... what the hell did you do to your gun?

TM? That's the only real worry free drop-in mechbox... I think...

If you really want to know , put in a 120 madbull spring , I used the gun for around 3 years , a year without disassembly , but the gun was from a very old batch and had awful quality , the only thing of superrior quality are the gears .

The gearbox has is usable just has signs of ware , and i have suspicion that it might fail by the end of this year .

AND BY THE WAY
Can anyone answer my question ?

You will gain ROF by using a good quality 8.4v battery. Original one does the job, but the ROF is very different from a good 8.4v one.

9.6v will add stress to your gun parts (gears, motor, etc...) thus reducing it's life time.

The gearbox is a metal Cyma v3 (It is tagged as CM02 but it's not). No credit to me, google has the credit :P

Another good way to get the orange tip off, is just take some plyers and twist it off, in a counter clockwise motion. Comes off with minimal force.

I live near Toronto, and can get a Clear/Black Kraken at Bass Pro for around $150. Would this kit really worth it, or would it be better to buy what is included seperately?

http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/product...roducts_id=353

I would want a mount for a recticle / red dot / whatever it is called and possible a scope. A foregrip is also a nice touch.

The battery will be crap. The charger will be crap. The sling will be crap.

And it's a kraken, so it's only moderately better than crap.

If you absolutly HAVE to get one, I wouldn't pay more than 150 for it.

I would probably upgrade it, but if I got a normal stock kraken, I would just add rails and a foregrip to it anyways, So would getting the $120 - $170 stock Kraken at Bass Pro then buying and adding these parts later be cheaper? I would also find a suitable and good battery/charger, the sling I don't really give a crap

For the price I paid when they first appeared and the performance they gave they are worth the money and perfect for beginners and/or people on a very tight budget. Sure they won't last 10 years but I know Krakens that have had a simple shim job and had been playing perfect for 5 years now. The one from this review out did most of the "name brand" guns in speed, distance, and accuracy.

I'm surprised my review has lasted this long! :D

Honestly, I can't answer if it would be cheaper. I've never owned an AK so I haven't priced out rails and stuff for them. Perhaps someone else around here can.

Well, after re reading it, I realized that the kit only comes with a metal rail system, sling, and black furniture. Would this really jack the price up nearly $100? Or are buyairsoft.ca's prices even higher then I thought?

right now though, where can i get a brand new one, just plain. if i plan on doing anything to it, it is after it is sitting in front of me, so i dont care about added accesories boxed in with it...

Krakens haven't been around for 5 years.

Krakens also don't use standard V3 cylinder heads. I hate having to dermal off the lip to install a cylinder head into a crapen.... err Kraken.

My mistake I've been out in the boon docks too long, feels like it's been 5 years since I last played airsoft. 2-3 years then.

My Kraken, bought at a local gas station???!!!, 2 years ago still rock and rolls.
It came with the green buttstock and foregrip but is now all painted a matte black. Had a piston jam awhile ago, fixed no prob. New spring installed and shoots straighter than you would think without a tightbore, and a hell of a lot farther without adj. hopup. Using 3200 mah Lipo and have not had a lick of trouble having now put 30,000 plus BB's (.25) through it. Other than the piston jam.
Buddy just (2 months ago) bought another Kraken from the same gas station. Chronied at 370 fps out of the box using a 1200 mah that came with it.

Our whole team in fact owns and regularly uses Krakens.
Love 'em.

my buddy has a kraken, i have a cm 028. both are great.. durable.. i would recommend them to anyone.. good price aswell

Kraken will last I've ran mine for 2 years worry free including crappy battery and charger only that is really really crap is the sling XD. Get a woodkit tactical ak's look funny.