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Drache July 15th, 2010 18:35

M203 Shot shells suggestions?
 
Ok so now I need opinions on shells for a M203.

Im thinking either Magpull M576 Rubber Slug Shot or maybe the Mad Bull XMPB4 Multi-Purpose shell with those practice golf balls :D

Thoughts?

Eeyore July 15th, 2010 19:58

I suggest a Dboys 3 in 1 M203. They actually are surprisingly high quality. Very reasonably priced about $210-250 and come with three differant mounting options.


Edit: If you are asking where to get one this should be moved to the AV section.

surebet July 15th, 2010 20:41

IF you can source it, the G&P unit is delicious.

Tyrarn July 15th, 2010 21:12

Got a King Arms one and they are very nice too!

Drache July 16th, 2010 08:10

Well now I need shell suggestions :D

coach July 16th, 2010 08:23

Madbull HP series. Only way to go in my mind. Some may say the S-Thunder, but they are just a knock off of the Madbulls. Aside from that, they are too colourful for my liking!

Drache July 16th, 2010 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1275433)
Madbull HP series. Only way to go in my mind. Some may say the S-Thunder, but they are just a knock off of the Madbulls. Aside from that, they are too colourful for my liking!

Which ones are the HP series?

coach July 16th, 2010 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1275465)
Which ones are the HP series?

xm108hp - cherry
xm204hp - king
xmpb4 - multipurpose
M576 - slug

all of these use CO2 as the preferred propellant thus hp (high power)

the M922A1's do not like CO2.



edit:

I haven't tested but also include:

M433 - 48 round

Tankdude July 16th, 2010 10:01

Out of the first three, which would you say was the best bang for your buck?

Drache July 16th, 2010 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tankdude (Post 1275472)
Out of the first three, which would you say was the best bang for your buck?

Hey! This is my thread! Get your own! :p

BTW... out of the four you named coachster, which is the best bang for the buck :D

Tyrarn July 16th, 2010 10:42

If you have a short M203, the xm204hp won`t fit in i think (the shell is to long)

Renegade) July 16th, 2010 11:04

Correct, the 204 will only fit in long launcher, the 108 will fit in any. Either are the best bang for your buck. 10 dollar difference.

DarkAngel July 16th, 2010 11:09

Personally, I love poppin cherries. On an average saturday night, im popping at least 2 or 3 of em.

Drache July 16th, 2010 11:21

1) Im not interested in shooting airsoft BB's with it :D
2) Will the xmpb4 fit in the short launcher? I looks like it should. What about the M576?

So between the M576 or the XMPB4 which would you suggest?

The downside I see with the M576 is worry about losing the rubber grenade heads and having to buy extras....

DarkAngel July 16th, 2010 11:27

Why dont you actually tell us what your doing with them then.

Drache July 16th, 2010 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1275536)
Why dont you actually tell us what your doing with them then.

Shooting Rabid Zombies... duh....

I don't want the shells that shoot airsoft BB's but rather one of the ones that shoot either the rubber grenades or the universal one to make up loads of whatever. :D

Eeyore July 16th, 2010 11:40

In that case the pb ones are best.

DarkAngel July 16th, 2010 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1275551)
Shooting Rabid Zombies... duh....

I don't want the shells that shoot airsoft BB's but rather one of the ones that shoot either the rubber grenades or the universal one to make up loads of whatever. :D

I dont get it.
I still dont know what your doing with em, so I cant help you or recommend anything.

Are you shooting PEOPLE? Or TARGETS?

Drache July 16th, 2010 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1275556)
I dont get it.
I still dont know what your doing with em, so I cant help you or recommend anything.

Are you shooting PEOPLE? Or TARGETS?

"radius effect kill" and targets

coach July 16th, 2010 12:08

hands down, kings are the best!

since your other thread was looking for a short launcher with trigger, I can assume you're not getting the xm203 short which won't fit the kings. but, I have never tried to chamber a king into a short launcher with a trigger.

for maximum range, kings or cherries.
for wider blast area but slightly shorter range, *snicker*, use the multipurpose nades.
for shortest load time, use the multipurpose nades but make sure to pack some tissue to act as wadding.
for maximum giggle factor, kings all the way at 900psi! ;)


I have never used the slugs, but as you mentioned, finding them will be a pain.

Drache July 16th, 2010 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1275578)
hands down, kings are the best!

since your other thread was looking for a short launcher with trigger, I can assume you're not getting the xm203 short which won't fit the kings. but, I have never tried to chamber a king into a short launcher with a trigger.

for maximum range, kings or cherries.
for wider blast area but slightly shorter range, *snicker*, use the multipurpose nades.
for shortest load time, use the multipurpose nades but make sure to pack some tissue to act as wadding.
for maximum giggle factor, kings all the way at 900psi! ;)


I have never used the slugs, but as you mentioned, finding them will be a pain.

Im looking for a single projectile as the targets the club has will mean lobbing grenades to get to them :D

Gaming them is not a huge priority although I will get the BB firing shells later for that.

Just wondering how well the M576 shoots (ie how powerful for maximum distance). I seen a video of the Magpul multipurpose being abing to fire various objects and then some which is nice and whatever it fired went a fair distance. Also being able to fire whatever you can fit into the barrel means cheap ammo in the dollar store (sorta) :p

Drache July 16th, 2010 12:43

Ok Ive got enough PM's asking me to further explain.

One of the gun clubs I belong to has a sort of shooting contest generally with small version of potato guns or things like that. The contest is not overall distane, some of the targets are straight shots pretty close. Some has to do with lobbing over an object as well. It can pretty much come down to accuracy and luck. Ammo can ALMOST be anything that fires out of the "gun".

Now at first I was looking into a real steel 37mm launcher but it's too hard to get the licenses to reload and shoot the 37mm practice rounds, not to mention they are a hellishly expensive to reload.

So I thought about an airsoft launcher and started looking into it. The reason I wanted short was to fit onto my bushmaster for shits and giggles. Not to mention I want to be a little different than everyone else.

Then I figured as well, everyone needs an launcher for airsoft as well, two birds with one stone sort of deal.

coach July 16th, 2010 12:59

use the XMPB4 then. It'll be more useful in airsoft then a slug.

how many shots do you get to tweak your range?



note: I didn't PM you! I could care less what you're shooting. if it's at me, know that I usually have the kings with .25's at 800-900psi! :p okay okay, there will be some .12's mixed in for a colourful spread...:rolleyes:...

Drache July 16th, 2010 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1275633)
use the XMPB4 then. It'll be more useful in airsoft then a slug.

how many shots do you get to tweak your range?



note: I didn't PM you! I could care less what you're shooting. if it's at me, know that I usually have the kings with .25's at 800-900psi! :p okay okay, there will be some .12's mixed in for a colourful spread...:rolleyes:...

You get three shots per target, closest one counts.

So you say to use CO2 for the XMPB4's? What kind of power can you expect from one of them?

coach July 16th, 2010 13:15

depends on the object you're shooting out of it and distance.

and since it's relatively safe, you can practice your aiming as well as adjusting the charge (psi) at home.

with 50-60 BB's in an XMPB4, with a half sheet of Kleenex as the wad, I can usually hit a target at 75 feet with little arching but that's at 600psi with BB's. (with a king, a level shot with 204 BB's at 800psi, easily beyond 100 feet)

Drache July 16th, 2010 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1275648)
depends on the object you're shooting out of it and distance.

and since it's relatively safe, you can practice your aiming as well as adjusting the charge (psi) at home.

with 50-60 BB's in an XMPB4, with a half sheet of Kleenex as the wad, I can usually hit a target at 75 feet with little arching but that's at 600psi with BB's. (with a king, a level shot with 204 BB's at 800psi, easily beyond 100 feet)

Good enough for me then! :D

Duckman July 20th, 2010 08:52

get a caw revolver launcher with whatever loads in teh cylinder (not kings...they dont fit)....charge them and you can quasy speed load the main barrel for an impromptu muzzle loading 6shooter :D .....muahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

if it makes a differance to you than you might wanna think about your gas dispersal when choosing loads....pb4 is a single hole in the middle vs the cherry having 8-10 smaller holes for gas flow.....not that it's gonna make a huge difference other than the concentration of gas at any particular point.

if you do a long launcher than you can always use empty cherries as your "powder bags" and muzzle load your projectile and still have the shower itself for gaming. jugglez might hate me for saying that but you can save yourself a few bucks that way.

Drache July 20th, 2010 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duckman (Post 1277975)
get a caw revolver launcher with whatever loads in teh cylinder (not kings...they dont fit)....charge them and you can quasy speed load the main barrel for an impromptu muzzle loading 6shooter :D .....muahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

if it makes a differance to you than you might wanna think about your gas dispersal when choosing loads....pb4 is a single hole in the middle vs the cherry having 8-10 smaller holes for gas flow.....not that it's gonna make a huge difference other than the concentration of gas at any particular point.

if you do a long launcher than you can always use empty cherries as your "powder bags" and muzzle load your projectile and still have the shower itself for gaming. jugglez might hate me for saying that but you can save yourself a few bucks that way.

I ordered the short launcher since the long isn't going to fit onto either or my guns :D

coach July 20th, 2010 09:20

pb4's will have better control of the gas since it's coming out of one opening. as long as your projectile is sitting in or on top of the nade and or mostly plugging the launch tube, you'll get full force.

with cherries and kings, the gas is dumped from one chamber into 12 tubes. I'd go this route only if your projectiles are more delicate and prone to shredding under the sheer power of 600psi in one concentrated spot. like nerf darts and such. even at 300 psi, I could effectively launch some nerf darts/rockets. (not the football ones)

What's your projectile?

Drache July 20th, 2010 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1277993)
pb4's will have better control of the gas since it's coming out of one opening. as long as your projectile is sitting in or on top of the nade and or mostly plugging the launch tube, you'll get full force.

with cherries and kings, the gas is dumped from one chamber into 12 tubes. I'd go this route only if your projectiles are more delicate and prone to shredding under the sheer power of 600psi in one concentrated spot. like nerf darts and such. even at 300 psi, I could effectively launch some nerf darts/rockets. (not the football ones)

What's your projectile?

once it arrives I have to do some experimenting on projectiles. A friend suggested practice golf balls for the competition since you can get them in different weights and from soft to hard.

But I'll test anything that will fit down the barrel :D

coach July 20th, 2010 09:41

yeah, you should be good with the practice balls. you may need to use some wadding or sabot to seal it in

Duckman July 20th, 2010 09:45

interesting choice of round....potential knuckle ball or, depending on your choice and precision of your sabot, could end up as a giant bb with weird to no hop up

coach July 20th, 2010 09:53

should be fine if the round has enough weight.

cannon balls don't need hopup to travel far and straight




edit:

btw, a good round to shoot are bean bags. well, I never tried a bean bag but I did launch one of my nieces bean bag toys and it went pretty straight. lol

Drache July 20th, 2010 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1278014)
yeah, you should be good with the practice balls. you may need to use some wadding or sabot to seal it in

The practice balls are slightly larger than 40mm in diameter. There is actually a video of a guy on youtube using the same shell firing one of the light weight balls and goes pretty good :D

coach July 20th, 2010 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1278172)
The practice balls are slightly larger than 40mm in diameter. There is actually a video of a guy on youtube using the same shell firing one of the light weight balls and goes pretty good :D

you know that a 40mm launcher isn't 40mm right? :p

Drache July 20th, 2010 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1278193)
you know that a 40mm launcher isn't 40mm right? :p

Whatever they size I already know they fit, snugly :p

But that being said an M203's bore diameter is supposed to be 40mm according to the US Army. :D

coach July 20th, 2010 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1278280)
Whatever they size I already know they fit, snugly :p

But that being said an M203's bore diameter is supposed to be 40mm according to the US Army. :D

but being able to fit real 40's in a toy launcher is a big no no.

but to confirm it, a friend had a LEO try putting his 40mm round in the CAW revolver. didn't fit.

Drache July 20th, 2010 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1278288)
but being able to fit real 40's in a toy launcher is a big no no.

but to confirm it, a friend had a LEO try putting his 40mm round in the CAW revolver. didn't fit.

Well this IS airsoft and not the real thing :D

Last thing you'd want is someone throwing a real 40 mike mike into an airsoft launcher to see what would happen :p

Duckman July 20th, 2010 15:12

ya...our stuff is around the 37mm-ish mark

Drache July 20th, 2010 15:46

None of the sizing maters anyways :p

But I was just over at a friend's and his Madbull launcher measures 41mm in Diameter with the calipers. Guess I'll check the king arms when it arrives on thursday


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