Which gun would you choose
 

Ok im new here so not sure where to post this but im looking to get an airsoft sniper and im was thinking about getting a echo 1 m28 or a vsr 10 in spring operated, what are the pros and cons of each gun

is this your first gun? then i'd choose an King arms M4, a sniper rifle is a high maintenance, and will result in a high amount of dosh to be make it accurate

VSR for sure. Buy Tokyo Marui, and upgrade appropriately, or you'll be raped by guys with AEGs.

Read this: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=158804


Also, no one is going to hand you a comprehensive list, as all this info is posted elsewhere several times. Put the time into search, we don't like to spoon feed. Read all of the forum rules.

Get age verified. If you do, not only will you gain access to sales threads, and many more forums full of the info you seek, we can also tell you where the best places are to buy the shit you want.

If you're new to airsoft please read the link above, because sniping in airsoft is "nothing", "literally nothing", like it's portrayed in the movies, and only loosely based on real life.

I have 2 othet guns, i have a g&g gas m4 short, a echo 1 m14 socom, a p226 gbb from kwj, and to danke yea i do snipe, and i know the role very well.

Ok so the vsr 10 is what ill get now ive looked online and a few stores and theres so many names like snow wolf, matrix, tokoy marui, and well is there any difference with the names or no

Good to know so you're so well setup and in the know!

See I got all confused and thought this was personal ad for a person who plays air soft with a sniper rifle.

Firstly, it's a sniper RIFLE
Secondly, it's a BOLT ACTION rifle

Thirdly, if it's your first airsoft gun, you're not going to know anything about flight characteristics of a BB or how to hunt people effectively. Most likely you're going to be a sitting duck and everyone's just going to have their way with you.

I haven't seen a stock bolt action rifle yet that offers superior range and accuracy. You usually need $400-$600 of upgrades to make it a real accurate rifle at range.

You're much better off getting an AEG for your first gun.

But if it's not your first gun, classic army M24, marui VSR-10 and marui L96 are your best options

Thundercautus i know what a sniper rifle is and that its bolt action, i perfure bolt action in real life since there is less moving parts and is more accurate and it wouldnt be my first gun i have three other guns, im looking gor something reliable and plz stop flaming me,.

Buy TM and buy once.

If you don't want to keep being flamed, try spelling things.

Number two, best choice is a genuine Tokyo Marui VSR-10, be prepared to spend several hundred in upgrades to make it a decent rifle for the role. Do not buy any of the clones, ie Well, Both elephant, C-TAC, etc. you will only end up disappointed. For upgrades pick either Laylax or PDI and stick with that company. You will have better results.

Get a Marui, otherwise you're gonna get out shot by any well built AEG.
When I compared my M14 to a TM VSR-10 with Laylax parts, the VSR was still only slightly more accurate, and it had a 50 FPS advantage over my gun too.

And please, learn to communicate. Nobody's going to take you seriously when you type like a 12 year old with poor use of grammar and spelling. Maybe you should start using periods more often, every post you've made here has been a run on sentence that has been painful to read.

If you're not going to provide any details of your shooting experience, we're going to assume you're just another 16-18yr old that knows nothing about airsoft or guns.
You can't blame us for treating you like a noob if you haven't provided any information to the contrary :)

What you've given us to go off of is your reference of a bolt action rifle as a "sniper", which is typically used by COD-softers and the young videogamer crowd that doesn't understand that a sniper is a person and a sniper rifle is a rifle. So no flame intended, we just assumed you were a noob is all.

- Tokyo Marui VSR-10 G-Spec (best results)
- Tokyo Marui L96 AWS (nearly the same)

- Classic Army M24 (budget choice)

- Maruzen L96 APS-2 (solid reliability)


Investigate upgrade potentials, and parts availability. If you want to make it shoot straight, true, and far, $400 - $600 of aftermarket upgrades depending on platform. If you want it to out perform the assault guns on the field, $800 - $1200 in upgrades. If you're serious about this as a field-able competitor, stick with the above mentioned variants. In the airsoft sniping, spring bolt world, anything else is pretty much cheap replica, and will not have the tolerances needed. Some guns hold the exact same upgrade parts as the ones mentioned above, but you won't usually get the same results.

Since someone brought up L96, this might be relevant:

http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/44...96-clones.html

Seems relevant, if you're going to waste your time buying a clone (my opinion). Your clone will not perform as well, as the original counter-part, I've seen this several times. I've also noticed they break a lot quicker as well.

The Maruzen APS-2 and TM VSR systems I've seen fully/properly upgrade, have outshot "any" others I've ever seen. I've definitely seen more clones than anything else, they just aren't as good, full stop.

I haven't personally noticed a CA M24, but many well known airsoft BA users swear by its abilities.

Best of the best though. Marui VSR G-Spec, easily.

Why not take the M14 SOCOM, get the front RIS assembly and rear sight mount post, a good quality telescopic sight, accurize the heck out of the internals, and DMR it? You can still hide in the weeds with it..

You'd likely be way ahead in the cash department, over a comparable airsoft sniper rifle version needing upgrades to make it worth the while to field, with more versatility, and cash in pocket left over.

for example..

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...827_021922.jpg

I absolutely +1 on the marui M14 short or long.
Very solid gun, with one of the best hop up designs for an airsoft gun.
When it comes to range and accuracy there are 3 critical things that matter in choosing a base rifle;
1) consistency of production. If a company makes 10 guns and only 2 of them end up being any good, it's not a good brand to buy
2) marui spec gearbox. If it takes proprietary parts, you're stuck with whatever crap that company chooses to provide you with. Stock internals don't matter, as long as they can be replaced with something better.
3) Hop chamber design. You can have a perfect sealing mechbox with the best Rhop & barrel combo, but if your hop chamber is a crap design to begin with, it won't be very consistent.

The marui M14 is all 3. Very nice gun. I'd go with the shorter barreled "socom", the longer barrel of the standard M14 doesn't provide any extra benefits.

ok i was taking a look at the vsr 10 on some sites and noticed that the clip is hard to take out with a gloved hand, and to me that seems to be a problem so how did you guys fix that or adjust to it

Sniper
 

Shouldn't you be age verified first before all of these questions are answered? Just saying...

I have a cyma m14 socom short and have a rail for it. the picture isnt my gun but thats what it looks like

http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/image...RailAction.gif

well Im not going to waste my time with that cause I work in the evenings and have a 1 year son

my shooting experience is hunting for 12 years and shooting for years, with a Remington 700 sps 270 win. I use a Leupold vx-3 2.5 8x36mm. I use 150 grains not store bought crap, it is useless. I also played paintball for 5 years, in pro. in 22 years old september 1, 1991. i grew up around guns and love them my next gun I want to get is a m14 and a sig sauer p226 since I do have my pal and restricted. if there is anymore questions about my experience in shooting dont flame or anything just ask me like an adult

It has nothing to do with trust my friend. We have every reason to believe you. However we've had countless people on here that lie through their teeth, and unless we meet you in person we have no real idea. I also have a busy work life, and a one year old son, but I definitely recommend getting AV'd. We can then give you access to more depth information.

another +1 for TM

By clip you mean magazine, then yes I can attest its a pain to take out with winter gloves on, but its not a hard task with tactical shooting gloves on. If that's a concern for you get a TM L96 they have a RS magazine set up. Or even get a gas M700.

How would an experienced rifle owner/operator refer to a magazine as a clip?

Lol that's what I was thinking when I read his post lol, he must have watched the wrong Youtube vid.

By the way PMC you live in the Whitby where do you shoot.

We are certainly allowed to make discussions about guns with a non av'd member. We are not however allowed to tell him where to acquire them.

well ill be playing at whitby airsoft off of Victoria st by whitby shores, and will be going to ultimate airsoft in Toronto which is indoors. the reason why I don't call it a magazine is because I don't see it as a proper term. There are two types of magazines, the ones you can by from stores like macks, chapters etc. My father and grandfather and I have always called them clips is for that reason because they clip into the rifle

Sorry I meant where do you shoot RS

here is the proper term for each:

I was looking online at a Tokyo Mauri vsr 10 and there pretty expensive is there like another brand that is just as good but at a lower price?

This is taught on the PAL course...

http://i.imgur.com/5sLRv4E.jpg

Where do you shoot RS, also get yourself AV'd that way we can help you better and you can score some good deals on sniper rifles in the classifieds.

Classic Army M24 is the reliable budget option. Still comes with needing of proper upgrades. There is no "good out of the box" sniper rifle.

All things can be acquired for reasonable prices in Canada, and/or through the classifieds pre-upgraded. Get AV'd, and you will gain access, and avoid hassle and overpaying.

They don't "clip" in. They are inserted into a chamber, not clipped to a plate.

See, even if you're telling us the truth, this is what we refer to as a red flag, and we've dealt with this "countless" times before. You claim to be experienced, yet your terminology is incorrect at the noob level. You seem to avoid the subject of age verification, and continue to ask questions we've clearly told you we cannot answer. The system exists for a purpose. We were all treated equally, and "everyone" goes through the same system. You will be no different, or you'll be doomed to make the same mistakes as everyone else. If it weren't for ASC, and our collective efforts at responsible airsoft ownership and operation, airsoft in Canada would not be as it is today. Please consider getting age verified as everyone has, unless of course your a youth trying to bypass the system. In which case, come clean before you end up permanently banned.

a clip is literally a clip that holds the rim of the carteridge.

a magazine holds the bullets in a box like container, it has a spring that guides bullets up as each spent case is ejected,

you, your grandfather, and your father have been wrong, your tradition is wrong, everything about you is wrong

Easy tiger.

It begins :)

I would stick with the AEG and run a DMR role. same results, and its still useful everywhere else. As for how hard it is to get Age Verified? You live in Whibty, drive to that surplus store in oshawa that you can find in the yellow pages and ask for Graham. Seriously. Just show your ID when you go there next to buy BBs and poof you will have started the Age Verification process.

Ive already messaged someone to get age verified but ive got no response yet

I know graham very well lol, the store in oshawa is called hero outdoors, I am very good friends with the owner jeff

I'm glad you're getting AV'd. It really supports the protection of the sport, and opens up so many more doors for you. It really is the intelligent choice, and ASC is a great community.

Yes you'll soon see how a well setup sniper rifle costs as much as a cheap car. So be sure to make some friends for rides to the games.

These talks always remind me of the accountant that had decided to become a lion tamer because he was tired of being a chartered accountant; but then we he saw a real lion he decided to be a banker so he could make a gradual move to the new career.

Just wait, every verifier has a life and is busy with it

I don't need to worry about a car, and I would like to see airsoft go as far as paintball has gone

Given time it is quite possible that it will.

Shoot as far?

Hey; just saw a movie on Magazine Clips.

30 Caliber Magazine Clip in a Half Second! (With the world's FASTEST shooter, Jerry Miculek) - YouTube

I have decided to go with a DMR using my m14 socom aeg and I was wondering the best ways to upgrade it to make it a DMR