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ganonman September 5th, 2007 17:19

Sniper advantages
 
hey guys im thinkin about buying a sniper rifle and are there any advantages? Also what one would you recomend for me.


P.S. I know the disadvantages.

Stupideye September 5th, 2007 17:30

Well if you are new I suggest (I'm still new myself) to get a simple but good AEG, get a sniper when you can handle one. :snipe:

TrueTGN September 5th, 2007 17:30

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Originally Posted by ganonman (Post 531396)
hey guys im thinkin about buying a sniper rifle and are there any advantages? Also what one would you recomend for me.


P.S. I know the disadvantages.

K, this is like your 8th new topic about getting a new/first gun. I suggest you get age verified if you're 18, otherwise don't even bother yet. Secondly, read up on some of the guns on google (and read the ASC FAQ). Sniping is quite an intense role and it is definitely not for everyone.... you'd do way better buying a basic aeg and working your way up from there once you learn your way around the game.

Hades September 5th, 2007 17:31

Depends what type of sniper your looking for. Bolt Action you have to have patience and skill. I have had a BA for 2 years now and have never fielded it yet. Instead I run my M14 in a sniper role and that works awsome.

tony123 September 5th, 2007 17:33

Only advantage i see is if that once upgraded a BA rifle has more accuracy and range then a AEG.

Ronan September 5th, 2007 17:46

With my SR-25 i enjoy sniping and semi action. It's quite fun, but the gun is NOT for beginners as it need some good upgrades. It's also very expensive.

Just grab a good M16 since its a bit long, and you can do some basic sniping. Which is basically good aiming and shooting :P

TokyoSeven September 5th, 2007 17:47

Advantages to being a sniper.

Save alot on BBs since you dont shoot alot.
Peace and quiet.
The novel idea that when you look at people through your scope, you can touch yourself in an awkward manner and then later on you can tell that person that you were touching yourself in an awkward manner while watching them. Did I mention you save a lot of BBs?

Blackthorne September 5th, 2007 18:02

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 531408)
Advantages to being a sniper.


The novel idea that when you look at people through your scope, you can touch yourself in an awkward manner and then later on you can tell that person that you were touching yourself in an awkward manner while watching them. Did I mention you save a lot of BBs?


Fucking PRICELESS! LMFAO! :D

rideout September 5th, 2007 18:03

they dont let anybody be a sniper, it takes much maturity and honour, also snipers shoot above the 400fps mark, which means you have to follow very specific guidlines as to the do's and donts

dontask September 5th, 2007 19:27

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 531408)
The novel idea that when you look at people through your scope, you can touch yourself in an awkward manner

then shoot them :D ?

ganonman September 5th, 2007 19:28

ok....but what rifle no one said anything about that and i supose il use a classicarmy M16 A4 with a good scope...but still what rifle is good iv beem looking and according to alot of fourms the sites i find are for crapsoft

Renegade) September 5th, 2007 19:37

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Originally Posted by ganonman (Post 531445)
ok....but what rifle no one said anything about that and i supose il use a classicarmy M16 A4 with a good scope...but still what rifle is good iv beem looking and according to alot of fourms the sites i find are for crapsoft

You wont find crapsoft on this site.. do some actual looking

FOX_111 September 5th, 2007 19:47

A CA M24 is the workhorse of sniping. You need to upgrade it a lot in order to snipe anything.

The advantages of being a sniper:
- The rifle is not affected by cold if well maintained. (gas rifle don't apply)
-You get to do a lot of real infiltration, most of the time alone or in pair.
-You get a lot of adrenaline when you are crawling in position, alone, near your targets.
- Each kills you make are a work of art IMO. It's not about how many you do, it's how hard you worked to get them.
- You are a tool to demoralise the ennemy, to keep them on their toes. One sniper shooting one guy in a formation can often send the whole formation running for cover or backup.
-You don't really save on BBs, since you get less per bags and they are more expensive.

The list goes on and on. Sniping is not for the new guys, as to be effective, you need to understand the dynamics of airsoft. Being a good rifleman playing assault for a year or two is a must IMO.

Ronan September 5th, 2007 19:52

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 531408)
Advantages to being a sniper.

Save alot on BBs since you dont shoot alot.
Peace and quiet.
The novel idea that when you look at people through your scope, you can touch yourself in an awkward manner and then later on you can tell that person that you were touching yourself in an awkward manner while watching them. Did I mention you save a lot of BBs?

HAHAHA awesome

ThunderCactus September 5th, 2007 19:58

SOME sniper rifles have better range and accuracy than upgraded AEGs, especially since they have a higher fps limit (some sniper rifles shoot 470 and dont outrange guns shooting 365, depends on your internals, wether its gas or spring, blah blah blah), gas guns are also very quiet.
Other than the gun the rest of the advantages are strictly player based: your ability to hit targets at range, the fact your quiet and can hear everyone around you, depending how well you make your ghillie you can blend in real well.
the disadvantages are: with bolt action rifles you can only fire 1 shot at a time, and with any sniper rifle you usually cant engage under a certain distance so you have to buy a (usually full auto) backup weapon. Even with a backup weapon, you better be a fast runner because in airsoft the best tactic to take out snipers is to rush them.

Ronan September 5th, 2007 20:12

Gas Guns are quiet? lol i think you mess up and meant BA guns are quiet.

ex September 5th, 2007 20:15

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 531473)
Gas Guns are quiet? lol i think you mess up and meant BA guns are quiet.

Gas Guns (gas ba's that is) are pretty quiet in my experience....Spring guns make a definite twang sound when fired. Still not all that loud though.

iceman3994 September 5th, 2007 20:18

I personally use the KJW M700 Takedown. I love the rifle. It is louder than a springer due to the gas, but like mentioned above, one shot one kill can demoralize a group and take the heat off your troops because they start worrying about the sniper that you become the focus. But with only one shot taken they cannot pinpoint your location.

Sitting there in your hide with the spotter looking out for targets. Seeing the unsuspecting players scurry around trying to make a play against your team. You slowly cock the bolt to the rear and hear it engage the next round. The feel of the trigger as you pull and hear the player...your victim....call hit. Then disappearing again. That is the ultimate feeling.....

Styrak September 5th, 2007 20:24

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Originally Posted by iceman3994 (Post 531476)
Sitting there in your hide with the spotter looking out for targets. Seeing the unsuspecting players scurry around trying to make a play against your team. You slowly cock the bolt to the rear and hear it engage the next round. The feel of the trigger as you pull and hear the player...your victim....call hit. Then disappearing again. That is the ultimate feeling.....

Are you starting some airsoft sniper stories/fan fiction here? Lol.

Donster September 5th, 2007 20:25

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 531460)
A CA M24 is the workhorse of sniping. You need to upgrade it a lot in order to snipe anything.

but what about hte tanaka M700 AICS. i heard that this is one of the best BA sniper rifles you can buy. i also heard that gas powered rifles are better than spring. is that true?

Janus September 5th, 2007 20:30

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Originally Posted by iceman3994 (Post 531476)
That is the ultimate feeling.....

Not quite as good as being surrounded, being fired upon from all sides, low on ammo, outgunned, outnumbered, outmaneuvered..and still holding your ground and taunting your enemy.

But hey, that's just me.

damage September 5th, 2007 20:33

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 531473)
Gas Guns are quiet? lol i think you mess up and meant BA guns are quiet.

Wrong its the other way around but there is one BA that is quiet. VSR G-Spec.

Hades September 5th, 2007 20:34

My aps/2 makes a loud popping sound when shot. But then again it has a super strong spring in it that you pretty much have to prop the butt of it on your thigh to pull the bolt back.

FOX_111 September 5th, 2007 20:39

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Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 531484)
but what about hte tanaka M700 AICS. i heard that this is one of the best BA sniper rifles you can buy. i also heard that gas powered rifles are better than spring. is that true?

The AICS is an awsome rifle. But shooting a gas rifle limit you depending on the weather. An all around perfect rifle would be a spring one.

Gas being better than spring, IMO, no. Gas only allow higher fps with less stress to the rifle, and the bolt is easyer to cycle.

With gas, you get inconsistency depending on the termerature and gas pressure. With a sping, the consistency is pretty stable, so you get better following shots.

As for the noise, both make a similar amount of noise. It's not audible from 150fps and up depending on the condition. The BB wacking it's target is louder.

Ronan September 5th, 2007 20:40

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Originally Posted by damage (Post 531493)
Wrong its the other way around but there is one BA that is quiet. VSR G-Spec.

Thats the one i shot. Damn it was quiet. And when the other player shot his Gas one it made a lot more noise. I altho though the CA M24 was deadly quiet.

jaa September 5th, 2007 23:09

My remington 870 has a long barrel and a 40 dollar scope. It may technically be a shotgun, but it has the range and accuracy to fit a sniper role. It's the only gun I use.

I find sniping depends more on the skill of the person rather than the equipment. As long as the gun will fire a .30 gram BB at least 200 yards with a grouping of less than a foot, it qualifies in my books as a sniper weapon.

Do not aim for the head.

Lakonian September 6th, 2007 00:01

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 531460)

- Each kills you make are a work of art IMO. It's not about how many you do, it's how hard you worked to get them.

I Wholeheartedly agree.

I don't think I have what it takes to play the sniper role (I like CQC too damn much), but yeah. Every kill would be alot more than... "zomg firefight!" ,and "zomg, I r teh winner".

Oh, another reason I wouldn't be able to do it is.. I don't like having things crawl on my nuts while I'm trying to calculate distance/wind/how much beer I'm going to drink afterwards. Really clouds yer brain.

TokyoSeven September 6th, 2007 02:29

Nothing violates you to the core like the feeling that someone is watching you and touching themselfves at the sametime, its even worse when you feel that they are enjoying it, and even worse when you can hear it but cant zone in on it.

Sniping can get costly if you use special heavier weight bbs. I do recommend them however, albeit I will not go into detail as to why, since AS YOU ARE READING THIS SENTENCE I AM TOUCHING MYSELF THINKING OF YOU! HAH!

Lakonian September 6th, 2007 02:37

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 531696)
I AM TOUCHING MYSELF THINKING OF YOU! HAH!

Sweet. Usually, I can only think of one person while I'm wankin'. Guess you must be special, eh?

TokyoSeven September 6th, 2007 02:40

I tell ya, it gets pretty magical.

ganonman September 8th, 2007 11:04

ROTFLMAO

frankiet September 8th, 2007 11:57

What nobody has seemed to mention is the OTHER role (and what I believe is the most important role). Recon. Effective snipers, in real life, play a huge role in relaying enemy positions. More often than not, they never take a shot. Being able to provide intel as to troop formations is more important to the overall mission than taking that one shot which will mean you have possibly exposed yourself. Airsoft snipers should be even less inclined to take a shot since most AEGs can near the range of a sniper rifle.

Having played the sniper role myself (with an SR25), I can honestly say that I have only taken out ONE target that was worth exposing myself to. I remained undetected even though I took out more enemies, but I think that once the enemy knows theres a sniper out there, they hunt you down. I was more valuable to my team being able to stay undetected and relaying what the enemy was doing.

It's not the glamourous role that it appears to be, but it is a very important job that if done right, can hugely benefit your team.

Jughead September 8th, 2007 12:51

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 531460)
A CA M24 is the workhorse of sniping. You need to upgrade it a lot in order to snipe anything.

The advantages of being a sniper:
- The rifle is not affected by cold if well maintained. (gas rifle don't apply)
-You get to do a lot of real infiltration, most of the time alone or in pair.
-You get a lot of adrenaline when you are crawling in position, alone, near your targets.
- Each kills you make are a work of art IMO. It's not about how many you do, it's how hard you worked to get them.
- You are a tool to demoralise the ennemy, to keep them on their toes. One sniper shooting one guy in a formation can often send the whole formation running for cover or backup.
-You don't really save on BBs, since you get less per bags and they are more expensive.

The list goes on and on. Sniping is not for the new guys, as to be effective, you need to understand the dynamics of airsoft. Being a good rifleman playing assault for a year or two is a must IMO.

This is bang on target for me as well,, well said... But I think that all the new players should have the same mentality coming into the sport, even if they are a rifleman etc.

Rugger_can September 8th, 2007 13:43

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Originally Posted by ganonman (Post 531396)
hey guys im thinkin about buying a sniper rifle and are there any advantages? Also what one would you recomend for me.


P.S. I know the disadvantages.

If you know the disadvantages then you know there are no "real" advantages to using a "sniper rifle" in airsoft. Other then the "kooler than thou" factor.

kalnaren September 8th, 2007 14:39

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Originally Posted by frankiet (Post 532932)
What nobody has seemed to mention is the OTHER role (and what I believe is the most important role). Recon. Effective snipers, in real life, play a huge role in relaying enemy positions. More often than not, they never take a shot. Being able to provide intel as to troop formations is more important to the overall mission than taking that one shot which will mean you have possibly exposed yourself. Airsoft snipers should be even less inclined to take a shot since most AEGs can near the range of a sniper rifle.

Having played the sniper role myself (with an SR25), I can honestly say that I have only taken out ONE target that was worth exposing myself to. I remained undetected even though I took out more enemies, but I think that once the enemy knows theres a sniper out there, they hunt you down. I was more valuable to my team being able to stay undetected and relaying what the enemy was doing.

It's not the glamourous role that it appears to be, but it is a very important job that if done right, can hugely benefit your team.

Probably why in the military they're called scout-snipers or just scouts. Well said though. Intel has one more battles than snipers.

Regan.S September 9th, 2007 01:17

Some advantages would be:

You get to see your bullets hit your target.
Your not in the line of fire usually.
You can take out a whole convoy of enemies by hitting on person.
Better accuracy.
An adrenaline boost.
Rifle maintains well in cold weather if your using a spring rifle.

Regan.S September 9th, 2007 01:24

I'm sure most of that has been posted but I hope that helps.

Lakonian September 9th, 2007 01:29

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Originally Posted by Regan.S (Post 533354)
Some advantages would be:

You get to see your bullets hit your target.
Your not in the line of fire usually.
You can take out a whole convoy of enemies by hitting on person.
Better accuracy.
An adrenaline boost.
Rifle maintains well in cold weather if your using a spring rifle.

I didn't understand that part... ? We're not engaging technicals, here.

ganonman November 17th, 2007 19:42

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 531408)
Advantages to being a sniper.

Save alot on BBs since you dont shoot alot.
Peace and quiet.
The novel idea that when you look at people through your scope, you can touch yourself in an awkward manner and then later on you can tell that person that you were touching yourself in an awkward manner while watching them. Did I mention you save a lot of BBs?

lol

purplestairs November 18th, 2007 01:15

There is a Disadvantage... Everybody hates the enemy sniper.

Ronan November 18th, 2007 03:03

*Fights the zombies off*

Damn Necro's!!!!

skalnok November 18th, 2007 03:22

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*Fights the zombies off*

Damn Necro's!!!!
today has been a day of the undead.


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