Brushless
 

Is it even possible to get a brussless motor into any AEGs?

Why would you want one? You're not using AEGs like R/C airplanes... a BL motor in one is kindof useless.

but just imagine the crazy rof u can get with brushless, all my r/c are brushless, and ive got a revo brushless, and it can do wheelies all day long and still has enuf top end to give my .26 savage :P

pros
Quieter
more power in a smaller package,
more efficient then a brushed motor
no sparking

cons
you need a computer to run it.

Yeah I had and have brusshless r/cs but now im into gas ones got my t-maxx O.S .18 and HPI rs4. so thats why i was wondering if it would work. It would be sick to use it though with a lipo!

ANy trouble getting enough torque out of a brushless to pull back the spring?

You could get a lower kv motor it would have more torque

Also what is the price/performance ratio to something like a systema short turbo motor? Do they even make a brushless with the same external size specs?

How much would a brushless cost? $150-200?

first of what is the can size of the motor? 280s are about 100 with esc. 380s and 540s are about 150 and up.

ok I did a quick rough measure of a g36 JG Chaoli micro lollers motor.

can looks to be 4.2 cm long

can + bottom part with contacts 5.5 cm
overall length 7.2 end to gear tip

width 2.5 cm

heres a website go down to bottom.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...ros/index.html

thanks for info Mr.SMIG I will investigate the motor option. I did some google seaching, some of theses brushless have extra wires for speed control. This may limit availability for aeg?

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...spec_chart.htm

yeah they do use speed controls but you could find pretty small speed controls out there. A good spot for it would maybe the battery compartment I would think.

Why would you want a higher rate of fire than the real steel counterpart of your gun?

dont know just something to try out.

I imagine if you wanted to you could make it work. The cost/benefit just doesn't seem to be their though. You can prevent sparking and all that with a MOSFET. And like ThunderCactus said, a ROF higher than the real steel? The amount of $$$ you would have to drop into that gun to make sure it's mechbox didn't explode too... I guess if you wanted to do it as a "proof of concept", but meh, seems kinda pointless.

g36 Rate of fire 750 rounds/min= 12.5 bulets/sec

SO I'd be looking for around 12.5 bbsec. Getting that .5 bb out might be a problem though. lol

Of course I never use full auto and spray. that is silly for my gun. But I really am thinking of adding a 3round burst mosfet.

Spraying should be reserved for macs. lol

I heara stock tm g36c does "easily 17-18 rounds per second". I doubt i am getting anywhere near 10. I will open the mechbox up again and see if the cylinder lube is too think or how that oring is doing.

My CA36 stock with an 8.4 shoots at 12 RPS. Pretty close methinks.

hmm I wonder if it my motor then. I never shot many bbs per sec. Somehow something is creating too much friction. I would not mind having the option to shoot 20 bbs a second though! If I can find a cheap systema turbo--screw ROF realism :)

The biggest problem with a brushless motor is generating the required torque. They are usually not as strong as a "brushed" motor of the same size. Now, when you install it in an AEG, you have to take into account that that motor may have to be starting a cycle with the spring fully compressed for example. This taxes the "brushed" motors all the time.

Brushes are a source of arc formation in a motor, every time they pass over a pole or rolling defect on a commutator. A FET will not solve that issue, only arc formation at the switch.

My friend put a G&P folding stock with the 9.6v 3000mah battery on his stock CA36. That was a stock gun and it easily fired 18 rounds per second.....for about 8 seconds until it stripped every tooth on the piston :)