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What are the FPS rules across Canada?
Hey there, the association I'm apart of is looking to update its rules to be closer to that of the rest of Canada (Partially so that when out of town players come they don't have to savagely downgrade their guns)
If you could, please fill out the following form and re-post it in this thread. Province: "Club" or "Group" you play with: Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow: Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: What is your FPS Limit: Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: What facial protection is REQUIRED: Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): If so, FPS Limits on Pistols: FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): |
I'll start, just so you can get an idea of my club's rules.
Province: Manitoba "Club" or "Group" you play with: Manitoba Airsoft Association Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: Yes there is another club, I'm not 100% sure on their rules as they are fairly new and I haven't had the time to make it out to one of their events yet. Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: 350 as they are generally used VERY close range FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 400 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 470 FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: 470 Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: No If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow: N/A Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: Auto What is your FPS Limit: 350 Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: No What facial protection is REQUIRED: Eyes REQUIRED (No duh) Teeth and face STRONGLY recommended Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): No If so, FPS Limits on Pistols: N/A FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): N/A FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: N/A FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): N/A |
at my field (Wasaga Beach), the max are:
pistols: no limit (since they are generally considered to be around 350-380) AEGs: 410 fps BA: 450 fps Indoor, generally i hear 350fps Now that being said, if you talk to the game host, you could get permission to use higher FPS guns. |
Location: Calgary, Alberta
"Club" or "Group" you play with: JOC Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: Yes, there are other clubs, but JOC is by far the largest. Don't know the rules of other clubs. Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: same as AEG's FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 420 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 480 FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: 480 Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: NO such program instituted in JOC If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow: N/A Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: semi ONLY What is your FPS Limit: 320 on ALL guns, including pistols Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: NO What facial protection is REQUIRED: ballistic rated glasses or goggles Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): NO FPS Limits on Pistols: 320 FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): 320 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 320 FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): 320 |
Location: Saskatchewan
Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: same as AEG's FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 425 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 475 FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: 475 Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: burst or auto allowed, depending on the game and host What is your FPS Limit: 350 on ALL guns, including pistols Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: NO What facial protection is REQUIRED: paintball goggles, etc, facial coverage highly recommended Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): NO |
Province:Alberta
"Club" or "Group" you play with:RAAT (Red Deer Airsoft Assault Teams) Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: JOC (Calgary - 1.5 hours south), EAR (Edmonton - 1.5 Hour north) Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: None, but considered to be <350fps FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's:435fps FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:435fps FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers:500fps Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun:No If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow:N/A Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: Only with other clubs, no local indoor site available. What is your FPS Limit: Depends on other clubs rules. Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun:Depends on other clubs rules. What facial protection is REQUIRED: Depends on other clubs rules. Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): Depends on other clubs rules. If so, FPS Limits on Pistols: Depends on other clubs rules. FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): Depends on other clubs rules. FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: Depends on other clubs rules. FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): Depends on other clubs rules. |
location: windsor
team name: WindsorAirsoftClub feild: paintballwilderness fps 280 with .25 handguns same BA same kinda shit but they let us play there for free and we can go when they are not there,night games... usually not a mercy rule, you can give it but dosent have to be taken indoors...N/A we drive to K-town to play those.... |
Province:B.C.
"Club" or "Group" you play with: PAC @ Hardcorps Combat Simulations Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: there are other groups and rules vary slightly depending on the group Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols:320fps 1.5J max FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 430fps with 2.2J max FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 500fps 2.5J max FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: 500fps 2.5J max Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: no but you can get banned for dangerous play or violating minimum engagement distances often If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow: 500fps (CQB field) Do you play with auto or semi only: no restriction What is your FPS Limit: same as above though we are considering restrictions Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: same as above HOWEVER semi-auto is encouraged for shots under 10m and mandatory for under 1m What facial protection is REQUIRED: Glasses only Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): Nope but we use air cannons; foam vehicle only rounds and anti-infantry BB rounds FPS Limits on Pistols:320fps 1.5 J max FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): 430 fps FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 500 fps FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): 500 fps |
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The fps cap posted by arman likely has more to do with paintballwilderness (where they play) rather than to do with his club.
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In Québec
Outdoor Auto AEG: 400fps Semi auto AEG: (locked on semi) 450fps Snipers: 450fps Certified operator limit: unlimited (field and organised dependant) 550fps in not uncommon. Limitations should fall under the guidelines of the sniper clinic if we want to structure things up a bit. Note: Certification process as begun with the sniper clinics I'm running. Indoor AEG, full auto 350fps Snipers: N/A since our indoor field kinda defeat snipers purposes. It's not paintball fields. No limits on pistols. All fps stated are chroned with .20g as usual. |
Why would there be a different FPS rules instituted for Pistols??? it's not like a pistol is packing more energy then an aeg with the same bb @ the same FPS
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Province:New Brunswick, Nova Scotia
"Club" or "Group" you play with: AAS Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: 300 FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 380fps (330 for new players) FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: See above FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: 500fps, but must follow certain guidelines Indoors -- no indoor feilds at the moment http://atlanticairsoft.org/showthread.php?t=897 |
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whether its a pistol, a bolt action, or an AEG, anything shooting the same weight of BB at the same muzzle velocity will have the same energy. so why the different FPS limits on pistols? |
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now back too the FPS rules... EDIT: yes Styrak but we cant find a CONSTANT supply of.... .3 or .43 at a good price.... and yes its a pretty nice feild we can do anything we want to basically.... |
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it is WAY To close to be using 390 FPS AEG's :P This thread was put up to review our FPS rules and that's what we're intending on doing! |
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I never thought the MAA's rules for FPS were that bad. Yes, you can quote me on the fact I actually thought the MAA did something right ;) LOL |
depends on the pistol some can attain stupid velocities look at the digicon ones.
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A friend of mine has a WA ProKiller Mk.II F4 with the 4" slide and compensator. We added a silencer, and replaced the inner barrel with one that's 8" long, and it shoots 400+fps. FULL AUTO.
I got hit with it in the kidney, and it felt like I was pelted with a baseball. |
I came across a DE GBB that shot well over 450fps... Depending on the day using propane.
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I really hate to say this,but alittle hotter fps helps with people that don't call there hits :) I know it's not the right way to look at it ,but....
I see some hotter fps limits and I think you would really have to see the area there being used in to make any kind of judgment,but thats just me. Ower games have been I think pretty standard. 400 fps Full auto(outdoors) 350 fps indoors 470 fps Semi (I might be alittle of on this one) I do think that I'v seen a bit of a trend with hotter pistols showing up at games ! Have to remember that nothings written in stone for any given area :) |
Province: Northwest Territories
"Club" or "Group" you play with: yk woodsball Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: None, but considered to be <350fps FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's:400fps FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:435fps FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers:500fps Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun:No If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow:N/A Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: No local indoor site available. Same limits due to temp. sites. What is your FPS Limit: N/A Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: N/A What facial protection is REQUIRED: Certified Goggles or Glasses Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): Yes. We test to make sure they're safe for our situation, then play with them. FPS Limits on Pistols: same FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): same FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: same FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): same |
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Aim for the teeth, ears, fingers and if they're male shoot their balls. Nothing like a stream of white going to the groin. Watch out with the m1a1... a burst with it is a stream.... I had some one stand up into the stream once and i was nolonger shooting him in the chest if you know what i mean. |
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Our team aproach to "Non callers" is simple. Like in real gunfights, some people are harder to drop. Some are just using drugs to stay up. So a larger amount of bullets (BBs) are required to drop that tango. We don't do a fuss about it, we just keep shooting untill that ennemy is "dead". If it become unsafe, we juste go see the guy and have him wise up or removed from play.
No bitching, no wining. Just fun. And no need to hurt the person. |
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I like your guys approach to it in all seriousness though. |
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Province: Ontario (General Rules I see posted)
"Club" or "Group" you play with: Niagara Area Are there other clubs in your area with different rules:No. Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols:Not usually stated. Assumed to be 350. FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's:400 FPS FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:450 FPS (Sniper Distance only) FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers:450 FPS Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: Sniper Course ran by Sha Do. If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow:500, 550 in quebec I think. Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: Unknown. What is your FPS Limit: 350 FPS Indoors Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: No What facial protection is REQUIRED: Eyes, full face suggested. Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): Not indoors. Pyro grenades only permitted at private fields (ex LZ Woodstock) If so, FPS Limits on Pistols: 350 FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this):350 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:350 FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): N/A |
I think I like Lisa's idea,but I try to NOT aim for the face (unless the have a full mask),just because we had a team mate loose three teeth at close range because of a heat of the moment battle.
I'm just wounder why Lisa might mention that lol,maybe it's the samething as when my Wife came and played CQB and eveyone was aiming for her ass,yeh she was pissed :) and No it wasent me lol. |
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General FPS rules
Province: QUEBEC
OUTDOORS FPS LIMIT ON ANY AEG/GBB : 400 fps (.20) (full/semi) Protection: MINIMUM: protection glasses FPS LIMIT ON SNIPER RIFLES : 450 fps(.20) INDOORS: FPS LIMIT ON ANY AEG/GBB : 350fps (.20) (full/semi) PROTECTION: BALLISTIC GOGGLES/PAINTBALL MASKS Sniper rifles are/should not be allowed in indoors. THESE SHOULD BE THE RULES THAT APPLY ALL ACROSS CANADA I live in the montreal area, and since there's no OUTDOOR fields near by, I only play indoors. |
Just to add a bit to this I think these are standard rules for Ontario.
The Sniper Course: lvl 2 will allow for an FPS of 500 with .20s with a safe range of 200ft body only 220ft head shot (if the head shot is really required we would rather wait for someone to slip up and show us a nice big and SAFE target but as we all know some folks will stick out there head all day long and not give you a choice) the lvl 3 is (not posative) 450 with .36s and the range is increased to(again not sure) 300 body only 330 head shot keep in mind many fields do not support such long engagements and all of these above rules are at the discretion of the field owners and the hosts of the game and any certified sniper that causes an injury or acts like a moron will likely be stripped of any certification and put back to 450 with .20s like any one else Quote:
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Province: BC
"Club" or "Group" you play with:WIA/Section 8 Are there other clubs in your area with different rules:CIA is the closest club at 200 km away Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols:330 fps FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: 415 fps at 20 ft min engagement FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:460 fps at 40 ft min engagement FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers:500 fps at 60 ft min engagement Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun:up the the players at the game that day. gun will be evaluated and the group will decide whether or not it is aloud If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow:500 fps Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only:N/A no indoor field What is your FPS Limit:N/A Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun:N/A FPS Limits on Pistols:N/A FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this):N/A FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:N/A FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): N/A What facial protection is REQUIRED:paintball masks. mesh gogges and anything other than paintball masks will be tested with the highest fps gun at the game if not already done Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): If so, we have not so far used them but small ones might have a chance at being used once a reliable design has been found |
The LZ field in Ottawa is pretty simple;
400fps full auto; and 450 Bolt Action. |
The paintball field owner in Niagara told me his Insurance provider covers only if the velocity is 350fps or lower. So in Niagara ALL guns shoot "350fps" , off coarse they never asked about bb wieght.
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Province: B.C.
"Club" or "Group" you play with: BCAC Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: Yes , Opfor , FVAA Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols: No official number , but if something is unsafe it will be brought up FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's: Does not exceed 415fps w/.2 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: Does not exceed 450 w/.2 FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers: @Panther Paintball 500fps w/.2 for certified users and @ burma 550fps w/.2 for certified users Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun: If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow: No gun should exceed 550fps w/.2 for certified users. Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: What is your FPS Limit: Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun: What facial protection is REQUIRED: Do you allow pyro grenades (If yes, please elaborate how you test them): If so, FPS Limits on Pistols: Same as above. FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this): 330fps FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's: 350 fps w/.2 FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): N/A We dont have a CQB location anymore those numbers are from roughly 8 years ago when so they are a bit out of date. |
Here are the Official Claybank rules.. perhaps since this is a National game these should be the national ratings to go by.. this way guns are always able to go national
Full and Semi-auto AEG’s BB Weight Max FPS .20g 420 .23g 392 .25g 376 .28g 355 .30g 343 .38g 313 .43g 286 1.64 joules Bolt Action & DMR BB Weight Max FPS .20g 475 .23g 443 .25g 425 .28g 402 .30g 388 .38g 354 .43g 324 2.10 joules |
Province: ONTARIO
"Club" or "Group" you play with:F.N.G. Are there other clubs in your area with different rules: Outdoors -- FPS Limit on Pistols:350 FPS Limit on auto-capable AEG's:400 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:400 FPS Limit on Bolt action snipers:450-460 Can some one get "Certified" and be granted the ability to use a higher FPS gun:HELL NO CERTIFICATION DOESNT HOLD WATER If so, what's the highest "Certified" FPS you'll allow:450-460 NO CERTs Indoors -- Do you play with auto or semi only: SEMI What is your FPS Limit:350 Is your FPS Limit different depending on the gun:NO What facial protection is REQUIRED: GLASSES Do you allow pyro grenades: YES tested on ourselves FPS Limits on Pistols: 350 FPS Limit on auto-capable (If your club uses this):350 FPS Limit on Semi-auto only AEG's:350 FPS Limit on (lol) Bolt Action Snipers (If this doesn't apply, just put "N/A"): N/A And as for the certification i could never understand why someone with a certification should be able to shoot hotter than anyone else and what makes these so called certifications the Be all and end all of snipers no offence to the Instructers but what is it that makes the people who attend able to shoot hot. To me it just sounds Unfair unless you get a certification from someone who literally is just another airsofter who has been a sniper for a couple years. Certification should be automatic after X amount of years or time played as one. This is not a rant or a shot at anyone this is just an opinion and a enigma i could never wrap my head around... A person Certs another and now he can shoot 500+FPS I have been shooting for almost 5 years with no certs and i cannot. makes no freakin sense... I shouldnt need someone elses approval or dissaproval as to weather i can handle it and use my own judgement. |
Games I host are pretty much 400 fps limit but I allow over that as long as those using them watch their MEDs. Also invite only games so those who do stupid shit are not invited again. and sadly we do not allow pyro as the field is too small and has house not too far from the edges of the property (within range to hear the gun shot like pop) which could result in "OMG somebody started shooting at those guys playing in the forest, 911"
No indoors sadly though. been over time, starting to build up little bits of a village though. |
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Yeh,but the date of that post was 08'.So it's all good now :)
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frig i didnt even notice that one
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I know that this thread is almost a year old and that some of the posts are even older (2 - 3 years). :rolleyes:
But I have a couple questions about the posted FPS limits. Are these values currently used or has there been any movement (Upward or downward) in the FPS limits for clubs across Canada? The reason I ask is that there seem to be hotter guns coming into Canada all the time. With the retailers working within the FPS limits set by customs, and the hotter GBBR's coming in. Guns that are jacked up to get in country are sometimes not downgraded after arriving. Do your clubs find that there is a problem with your limits, or have you kept your limits and forced the players to downgrade their guns? How firm are you when it comes to these limits? Lets say you have someone come a great distance to a game and their gun is shooting 5 or 10 FPS over your limit. Do you allow them in or send them away? What about 20 over? or more? Or do you have a soft limit and allow some variation dependant on the other players in the game? (I.E. vote to allow or not) Thanks to those that will take the time to post!:D |
FPS- indoor, CQB .. with no minimum engagement ( contact shots do happen)
350 fps with .20 Outdoor. This year I am moving the FPS limit to 500 FPS with .20 So those shooting GBBR with .30 will probably get about 400+ fps this will push engagement ranges out to 50 - 60 meters and make hiding behind bushes ineffective cover. People will seek hard cover and try not to get hit at these velocities, yet with proper protection, no injuries should occur. |
At the field I play at (Bigfoot) We had a couple incidents of people using hot guns. Mainly the new G&G Max guns. They've had to enforce random chrono tests. Our first game under that rule started something like an hour and half late since we were chronoing every gun on the field.
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