Brass Guard - Airsoft Protective Mask
 

I was parousing Youtube for some music and ended stumbling on this

Brass Guard - Airsoft Mask

All the way from Russia
http://brassguardequip.com/

Interesting design, never seen something like that before
That is there english site, but perhaps those who know Russian can broker a good deal to bring them over.

YouTube - airsoft mask

And to keep up with their innovation they even made this

YouTube - airsoft mask. multicam

They have half masks as well

http://www.brassguardequip.com/images/mas7.jpg

You can also be a Multi-Cam Ninja

http://www.brassguardequip.com/images/pret3.jpg

It's a modified fencing mask. Also a repost. Good compilation of all the vids though.

EDIT: Also good for fans of Mortal Kombat.

ALSO: For the full face mask it's 95USD + DHL top price for shipping = 64 USD. shipping time 5 day = $150USD OUCH.

the half mask is freaking interesting!!! to use with regular ess goggles instead of mesh!!

Definitely interested in the half mask as I never play without full face protection. It looks like you can get a better cheek contact with the stock as well. I would not mind the $95 but the shipping is just too much.

Still a mesh mask...

i like these, not so much the price tho

The half one is a great idea! Hmmm need one lol

The half-mask is awesome. Just sucks that shipping is such a racket... I can't believe they charge 43US$ for basic shipping. Incredible.

I'd buy that in a minute otherwise.

Group purchase could reduce shipping?

Also, from the site:

How to use BGE PMs:
1. THE BUYER USES THIS PRODUCT AT HIS OWN RISK.
2. DO NOT use this mask for protection if munitions another then bbs cal. 6 mm weight 0.12 - 0.28 g and velocity above 150 m/s is used. 2. Minimum safe firing range is 5 meters.3. DO NOT use this mask in hardball-type games when metallic munitions is used.
4. KEEP THIS PRODUCT AWAY from water and harmful substances. DO NOT keep it wet more then 2 hours.
5. DO NOT warm it up above 40C (70F)
6. DO NOT shoot in mask from AEGs above 150 fps tuning.

id sell one of my guns to be able to afford those if somebody else would order with me to reduce the shipping

Just on the line before they say 150 m/s so might be just a typo. Also this mesh mask is better then wearing nothing at all!

I agree, but eye wise, is it as good as a Molle T800 glass? (if you order the full facemask)

I wouldn't trust a mesh mask over my eyes even if it is very resistant (BBs can break and shards can go in the eyes).

The half-mask would be my way to go.

+1

Note the fellow in the demo had ballistic glasses on under the mask.

I like the idea of the mesh half mask..

One of the issues with mesh is in bright sun.. it can be hard to see out of due to reflective scattering.. and they are useless in low light as your eye wants to focus on the mask ...

Talk about gouging for shipping. $43 for EMS and it takes 1 month?

EMS should be cheaper AND it should take like 3-5 days.

I'd be down for a group order for the half mesh masks, I wonder if it's possible to reshape the meshing for a better cheek weld or for other players who may have larger/smaller cheek bones/face etc.

On the other hand, I've been using this for Indoor CQB yeah I've been called Darth Vader or whatever but I can enjoy myself without worrying about coming home with welts on my neck/face.

Here's what I use: http://www.eyetactical.com/ Oh and it's Canadian, head office is in Ottawa I believe.

Remember, safety first.

It's probably coming from the heart of the motherland!! Plus it'll probably cost a little $$ to bribe the folks in the post office to not carelessly 'lose' packages.



tehnooblord we're all seriously tired of you bickering about not being able to afford anything.

STFU already, everybody has financial problems but we all make ends meets when it comes to this hobby. Airsoft isn't even considered EXPENSIVE compared to some of the other hobbies out there.

As for money issues, it's usually because you don't keep track of your expenses/income very well, maybe you should start writing down what you spend each day and what you make and then start figuring out what you can and can't spend your $$ on after you've set priorities.

oooooook.

Now let's get back on topic shall we?

Protective mask from Russia. Yes, that's it! ;)

yes,
want,
group order?

+1

Group order of 4 reduce the unit price to 51 USD per unit, not bad

not bad, gimme a few days and im in for an order, anybody else?

oh by the way, is that for the full mask or the half mask?

Half one

Full mask make no sense to me, as silver pointed, you would have to put some goggle underneath to protect from bb shard when they impact on the mesh...

Apologies if you guys have been through this before....
But what about simply stitching the light wire mesh (ala home depot) in between layers of a cloth half mask or neoprene? I mean it would give the same protection and would cost basically nothing...

Although it would be pretty hot underneath it, you can go to thin cloth instead of neoprene.

being homemade, i wouldnt bet on it stopping BBs, and it would also probable be pretty uncomfortable, because... well...i just get this image of a piece of chicken wire strapped to my face

Id personally prefer the full mech, but thats maybe just me, cause i already wear glasses under it anyways, if its just the half mask, i dont see why you wouldnt just get goggles with the face mask built in

Wait, what? this

Could someone define what the hell "drilled goggles" are, I'm hoping it's not what I think it means...

i drilled some small holes around the outer rim to aid ventilation, and whats that got to do with this thread?

Wow.. That should have been brought to PMs a long time ago. GTFO this thread with those comments.

This looks kind of cool, especially the half mask since it would offer protection, but without fogging up goggles like wearing a neoprene half mask does. But so expensive, I just don't see it as worth that much. I like the idea of home made half mask.

Curiosity, and I prefered not to post in the game thread.

I'll pass on commenting the wisdom in drilling hole in protective equipment.

As for your... issues, you ganked us with that. The original point stands, this isn't MSN, and advertising guns for sale (even passively like in your comment) goes against the TOS here.

The goal of this is specifically NOT to have cloth or neoprone over your face while having a strong breathable mask.

It would be nice for a RETAILER (Some one with successful pre-order experience) to organize getting these things :)

yea, i guess id be in for either half or full mask

I would have just bought a half mask, if their ordering system was all soviet and crackity. If someone learns how to navigate WebMoney and manages to get one shipped, please tell me your arcane secrets.

english version: http://www.wmtransfer.com/

Or, You can hit the en/ru button on top right of the Webmoney's website.

Don't worry, I made it past that part.

Only one problem with that:

"The total price should NOT be above 323 USD and delivery should contain NOT more than 4 items of one type. "

someone china mass production it please ;)

Just a bump. There's now a EU dealer on Arnies.
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...post&p=2259360

US shipping (what was posted):
0 - 2 kg EUR 24,10
2 - 5 kg EUR 34,20
5 - 10 kg EUR 57,10

Stalker 'Black' or 'OD' - Euro 26/each (US$37.71)
Stalker 'Multicam' - Euro 36/each (US$52.22) (All other colors are also available but with minimum quantity of 5 pieces)
Praetorian - Euro 71/each (US$103) (All other colors are also available but with minimum quantity of 5 pieces)

Still pretty expensive, but if a big group order was done, it would bring down the price. I'd be interested in a Stalker mask in Coyote.

Why can't they make the same thing with transparent plastic instead?

that surface would be very expensive; and the fog....

I would be in for the Stalker OD though if people decide for a group order.

id be interested a group order

I would be down for a stalker in multicam for suure!

On Arnies:

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...=post&id=42460

I would buy that in Multicam SOO fast

I would be interested in a Stalker 'CB' hafe mask pending the price shipped to me.

If cost isn't too bad I would be in for a half mask in od. There is a guy on JOC in Calgary who is currently putting something similar together. Seen him wear one during indoor and don't look bad.

will there ever be a group order for this?

depending on pricing id be up for a half mask

if anyone is doing a group order i would like a CB half mask (stalker) aswell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's a made in Canada product coming soon. So maybe wait and see on that first.

Source?

Is it being made by you?

All i know is that for 150$US i could make at least 5 of em......the half masks i mean

think i found a new project.

Squeeeeeeeeeeek!

If you were to read 4 posts above his you would have your answer. He is on JOC out of Calgary

Oh, shit, missed that.

Thanks,

i would be in for one bat mask ( after march) though if calgary dude is better id buy one of his lol

Really interesting, I would be in for one as well.

Hmmm looks cool, but i'm ordering the DYE i4 instead lol

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/sho...highlight=mask

Here is a link to the thread..there are few pages of everyone wanting the Russian dealie but after that there is info about Clerics creations..I have my name down for the "chops"

Also found this custom mask maker in Russia
http://www.tacgear.ru/blogick

At least 10 orders must be placed if you get a custom mask and each mask runs from 65 usd - 100 usd depending on the dimensions

Great for teams I guess who want to have one specific mask


There is also Bitter End Airsoft Mesh Mask
http://www.st6-airsoft.com/stamped_steel_goggles.htm

By the looks of it, it looks a handy man from Canada could actually do something like this if they have the necessary tools

i would stay away from stamped steel for a mask. that stuff may look and feel tough, but it doesnt handle impacts very well.
brass mesh isnt much better, it is far too soft. stainless steel heavy gauge woven mesh is by far the best material. you can heat to to make it malleable, then temper it to make it super hard and flexible.

there is a company here in Toronto that sells different kinds of wire mesh. im going to get some stainless steel mesh in different gauges to see which would be best for airsoft.
http://www.ferrierwire.com/products.asp

Here is another provider of half masks...and having just received (birthday) their goggles, can say these are quite impressive.

There is NO way you will ever penetrate this mesh...not with AS.

http://www.st6-airsoft.com/lower_mask.htm

i just signed up but am unable to view the thread. it says it does not exist or i am not privileged to view it

hey mikhail got a link as to where i could buy these mesh half~masks.very interesting...

yea, looks nice Mikhail, you got a link on where to purchase it?

Still not as safe as lens masks. Harder to see through and BBs DO shatter on impact if close enough, I don't trust mesh masks.


Plus most of the local fields want Painball approved goggles :( which makes my CA tac goggles useless. At least they look nice

The thread is in the general boards so should be able to see it..anyone else having this problem?

i will have paintball goggles,i want the lower half mask.i see the link,the pics but cant buy.

I clicked the link and everything works fine? go to contact us and there you go.

Alright the way the site works,you got to send a msg in contacts then sellers emails you his paypal account.Just ordered a lower face mask,colour : black.Ill let you guys know about the comfort of wearing this...havent played yet but comfort should be obvious.

Excellent.

I'll be waiting for your review buddy.

Hmm...ya I don't know about not as safe. Seen paintball lenses punched through (age of lens maybe, sure). I don't trust PAINTBALL masks that I have to wear for AIRSOFT because of a fields insurance needs. Not exactly putting my safety first. And there are lots of excellent fields here which are not insured as paintball fields.

These are also been approved for several LARGE venue ops down south.

And fogged lenses that I can not see through, stumbling around in the bush is a concern both visibility-wise and safety-wise.

Just email the Bitter-end fellow, tell him which product you like, and he will respond right away with a shipping quote. Mine (and my wifes) were shipped in days.

Mines painted up MC, and I find that the mesh sits before my focal range...I think I am losing maybe 5% of my light, but zero vision. In fact, I think my vision has sharpened up a bit via pinhole effect....

.....hold it...forget everything I just said....NO I am now quite blind!...cant see anything...come closer.:cool:

hey guys,i received 3 lower face bitter end face masks.
I have to say they are very well crafted,very comfortable and will definatly protect teeth/nose area.They fit good with my PB jt goggles (rest of mask torn off).
No problem whatsoever looking down the iron sights.I dont regret dealing with them and definitly will deal with them again.
The only downside is,being a metal mask,it if much more comfortable if wearing a balaclave.So i will get hot on thoses summer days.
(please dont flame my english i am trying my best)

just got my samples of the russian masks today and have to say they are both awesome - all of the others are fairly flat in comparison - these ones are far more contoured to your face and the mesh i bombproof. it's also not fixed mesh - tightweave mesh which means it flexes slightly at higher velocity resulting in the BB bouncing and not shattering - tested on VSR10 with 0.2g 0.28 0.35 BB's shooting 460 with 0.2's. well worth the wait IMHO

Cjay, where did you order your Russian masks from? You saw Cleric's masks at the swap meet right? How would they compare? I would love to check our your masks at some point so see how they do with ESS Turbofan goggles and cheek weld.

I still gots some contacts from the UK airsoft scene so there was alot of fast talking to get some free samples lol - in short I canny really say just now but if all goes well then i can defo put in some bulk orders for peeps. in comparison to cleric's I'd imagine they are pretty similar - mesh is slightly heavier I believe but not by much at all - as I said they are more contoured so I recon they would fit goggles better out the box for sure but it's not rocket science to bend any other mesh masks to work just as well :D Like I said i recon they are awesome but I can't really test them right now - bailed rather spectacularly on Nikiska today (one guy thought i ragdolled pretty well lol) so my ankles pretty badly mulched just now so tomorrow nights game looks like a no-go...sniff :( if u fancy giving it a try just lemmi know

Ill be interested in taking part in a bulk order..keep me posted!

+1

i would def be in for bulk order but only once the bat mask is in production.

+1 as well.

Any updates on this?

I'd be in for one of the Russian style masks in a group order. I saw photos of the stalker, batmask and the full mask on Arnie'sairsoft. They look really good.
In lots of 5 or more you can get custom colors.
If I recall correctly, a Dutch guy is doing some retailing of them. And they are just becoming available.

edit.. found the thread and have a link to the website where these are available.

http://meshmasks.eu/

So um anyone planning on doing a mass order? :D

http://www.brass-guard.com/wp-conten...y/BAT/bat2.jpg

I would be in for a bat mask too... Probably Woodland or OD lol...

if a group order gos down im in for a bat mask as well

mask
 

Please keep me posted as well...

I like my face the way it curently is.... lol

I want at least two of them.... stalker & Bat.

I got mine the other day. I LOVE IT, it feels great on my face and i think worth every penney. I like my teeth and want to keep them

+1

Any word at all about availability or someone doing a group order for these?

I received my order of 3 Stalker masks a couple of weeks ago, from meshmasks.eu. It took some time to get them, and when talking with the retailer he indicated that there are problems supplying more. Brassguard seem to be the current must-have airsoft item.

Another option is Cleric here in Calgary from the JOC boards. He has made a very nice facsimile which he is selling locally.

Yep, they told me (last week) that they were not taking any orders (nor pre-orders) until further notice...

:(

I have Cleric's TIMM. Does the trick nicely. No padding but as long as you dont tighten it too much its ok.

Brass Guard just started a discounted bulk order offer. How about we organize one? Although I would need someone in Vancouver to give mine to a friend that comes to Seattle regularly.

Details here:
http://www.brassguardequip.com/payments.html

does it bend in alot from a point blank 300 fps shot?

No, I've seen one that's been full auto'd at point blank, they just bounce off.. apparently great masks though, everyone I've seen using them can't shut up about them, lol. Makes me want one.

Yo man, they want us to order at lest 20 masks (that is if you want to have stalker masks.

That's alot of fucking masks lol. And if we try to do this, you have to realise that the shipping will be robbery.

Ex : I do the group order for 20 masks. After they arrive to my home, they still have to be shipped to everybody's door. 1 in Vancouver, the other one in Calgary, etc etc.

All that to say that unless you are either willing to pay great shipping fees, OR, if you manage to find 20 persons that want a mask like this AND that lives "nearby" to you... Idk BrassGuard is pissing me off atm lol.

I already had an email exchange with them, the total of the order, SHIPPED is $633 USD, that's about $32 USD per mask already here. I understand that then it's kind of a pain to have to ship it to another city from whoever receives the total order, but it is way cheaper than trying to buy a single one for yourself, since the bulk order and the single order shipping costs almost the same (they are discounting it for the bulk).

32 usd isnt bad if its nice quality, how much shipping to toronto? From ur place

the website says dont shoot at over 150fps with .2grams..... anyone use these at higher velocities?

That's probably just to cover their ass.

Jeff

i'd pay 32 bucks for one...plus say another 10 for shipping. no higher though

You guys should try playing with just eye protection one of these days. It's not that bad.