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Crunchmeister April 11th, 2008 13:25

What a difference a good battery makes
 
Well, today I received a bunch of batteries I ordered from eHobby a while back.Now, I know that increasing either voltage or capacity makes a big difference. I'm utterly impressed with the results of my first battery test so far.

I decided to move to 9.6V after plugging my 9.6V 2000 mAh Ni-MH battery (normally in my C into my JG HK416. The stock 8.4V 1500 mAh NiCd battery works well, and delivers about 12 bb/s. That's a pretty good rof. With the other battery, I got 18 bb/s.

Since then, I've upgraded my 416 to a full M16 stock, which means I now have room for a large 9.6V battery, so I decided to order a 3300 mAh. Holy shit! When I got it off the charger and hit the trigger in full auto (dry fire), the rof was beastly. I loaded up a handful of BBs in a mag, and pulled out the trusty chrony. I'm now firing 24.8 bb/s. It's CRAZY. And the responsiveness of the trigger in semi auto is excellent. There's no more 'lag' between the trigger pull and the shot being fired. I used to be able to tap the trigger in semi and essentially 'cock' the spring, with the final tap firing the BB. No more. Now as soon as I touch the trigger, the shot fires.

I have another one of these batteries for my CA M15. That gun got me 12 bb/s with my original 8.4V 3000 mAh battery. I can't wait for it to charge up so I can test it out. I don't expect my rof to increase as drastically as with my 416, since I already was pumping it out at 3000 mAh, but it should still give me an nice little increase.

I also got myself a 9.6V 1500 mAh battery for my RS Type 56. the Firefly 1500 mAh 8.4 V battery in there currently has it shooting at 13 bb/s. My C8's battery had brought it up to 19 bb/s, so I can't imagine I'll see any more of an increase with this new battery due to its lower capacity.

So yeah, I can recommend that if someone wants to get a higher rof, then the first upgrade should be a 9.6V high capacity battery.

Double Tapper April 11th, 2008 14:09

What is this going to do to your motor,gears and piston?.
On the 26 I'm borrowing a 9.6 3600 sub-c and my m16
has stock gears and motor.

Crunchmeister April 11th, 2008 14:14

Well, I know I'll have to replace some internals anyway. I really want to use this JG stock (internally) as long as possible to test its durability. If something goes, other than a spur gear or bushings, I have all the spare parts here to fix it anyway. A heavy battery will certainly make it wear faster, but short of snapping the mechbox (it's one of the JG reinforced ones), anything that breaks internally I can replace easily and cheaply.

pawscal April 11th, 2008 14:29

Yeah good 9.6v batteries and a good charger is essential in this sport.

Crunchmeister April 11th, 2008 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawscal (Post 692102)
Yeah good 9.6v batteries and a good charger is essential in this sport.

I can see why now. It's one thing to hear numbers of what a better battery can do in terms of performance of the gun. But when you actually experience it, it's quite a treat.

My Type 56, with my 8.4V battery, already has an almost instantaneous trigger response. When I shoot it, it almost feels like I'm firing a GBB or real steel rather than an AEG. Now my 416 with the new battery has almost as rapid a trigger response. I can just imagine what the Type 56 will be like with the better battery.

Cheesevillage April 11th, 2008 14:59

My first battery was (and still is) a large 8.4V 3300mah. I ordered this battery and a stock TM AEG 3 years ago with no "real" knowledge (only internet research).

I didn't think much of trigger lag much till I fired Styrak's P90. The lag was very noticeable. I guess I just started out right but never knew it:D


Oh yeah and I charge my battery like twice a season.



Large batteries or die!

Trapper1 April 11th, 2008 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 692095)
Well, I know I'll have to replace some internals anyway. I really want to use this JG stock (internally) as long as possible to test its durability. If something goes, other than a spur gear or bushings, I have all the spare parts here to fix it anyway. A heavy battery will certainly make it wear faster, but short of snapping the mechbox (it's one of the JG reinforced ones), anything that breaks internally I can replace easily and cheaply.

I shoot a JG 416 as well, and i'm still sketchy about puttin in a big 9.6 even with the upgrades i've put into her. Besides, whats all the hype about high rate of fire? it only takes one shot right? lol.

Still, i gotta admit 24 RPS is pretty damn sweet.

Crunchmeister April 11th, 2008 15:34

Rate of fire isn't really what I was after. I like a high rof, but what I really wanted was to reduce the trigger lag. My Type 56 is already like this with an 8.4V battery, and once I started shooting that gun, the others just didn't feel the same anymore. That was my main motivation to get these batteries.

The increased rof is just icing on the cake anyway. Besides, I'm more of a sinble shot or burst fire kinda guy anyway. I won't be using this to spray and pray, although if I need to lay down some heavy cover fire, I'll be able to put a lot of ammo downrange in a very short period of time. :D

Dusti69 April 11th, 2008 15:55

it sounds like the better trigger response along with the higher rate of fire allows you fire the same amount of rounds as its did with the lower battery but now it takes less time holding the trigger down.
i would imagine this would allow you to be more effective in a skirmish seeing as how it would cut the amount of time youre exposed out of cover making you harder to hit yet still laying down the same amount of fire as effectively as before

sigsour April 11th, 2008 16:43

I'm a sound guy and got a tight bore barrel purely because they sound fantastic. Does a better battery reduce the whirring sound of the electric motor?

I imagine it would since the faster cycle time would shorten the sound, possibly to something that sounded less electronic?

Qlong April 11th, 2008 16:48

A faster cycle would mean a higher pitched electronic motor noise. If you want quiet go with some helical gears.

Hatori April 11th, 2008 17:15

Sorry if this has been stated before , but....

Greater Voltage = Faster Trigger response/ ROF?????

or

Higher Amp = Faster Trigger response/ROF??????

Double Tapper April 11th, 2008 17:18

Both so I have been told.

Dusti69 April 11th, 2008 17:18

what makes the batteries charge last longer? volts or mah?

pusangani April 11th, 2008 17:23

MAH


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