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ILLusion September 6th, 2008 17:33

Safariland 6004: Do you carry your sidearm cocked & locked?
 
So I recently ordered a Safariland 6004 holster for my Kimber Warrior. I specifically got the one that also allowed a Streamlight M6 to be attached.

I noticed that the hammer strap has a nub in it that does not allow the hammer strap to close down on the back of the slide when the hammer is down. The only way to secure the pistol is with the hammer cocked.

Further research in to this shows that Safariland offers both "hammer down" as well as "cocked & locked" models for certain models. This particular holster I got only had one model listed, so I'm assuming users of this holster would only be carrying their pistol cocked & locked (it's also listed as compatible with Springfield Operator 1911).

I'm not accustomed to carrying my pistol around while it's cocked & locked to reduce tension on the hammer spring, but I can understand why it's done for emergency quick-draw situations.

I'm curious as to how many other people do or do not carry their pistol in condition 1 (cocked and locked) or in condition 3 (hammer down, no round in the pipe, full mag inserted)

pugs144 September 6th, 2008 18:24

Condition 3's fine but your transitions will be that much slower due to the extra motion from having to rack the slide. Having it in Condition 1 shouldn't put that much stress on the mainspring if it's just for the duration of a game.

airborne1 September 6th, 2008 19:03

Cocked and locked always.

mcguyver September 6th, 2008 19:11

I carry both real and airsoft Glocks cocked and ready, as long as I'm at the range shooting the real one. If I'm at the range and the range is not hot, I'll leave the G22 on the bench, slide open or insert it slide open into my holster (but I can't secure it there for obvios reasons).

For some pistol shoots, the range is hot at a specified time and stays hot for hours sometimes, and all guns are assumed loaded and ready.

attack-beaver September 6th, 2008 20:33

cocked and locked when in game.

Roughneck September 6th, 2008 20:35

1911 half cocked, Mk23 NBB cocked with round chambered

CDN_Stalker September 6th, 2008 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 811714)
I carry both real and airsoft Glocks cocked and ready, as long as I'm at the range shooting the real one. If I'm at the range and the range is not hot, I'll leave the G22 on the bench, slide open or insert it slide open into my holster (but I can't secure it there for obvios reasons).

For some pistol shoots, the range is hot at a specified time and stays hot for hours sometimes, and all guns are assumed loaded and ready.

Lol at a real steel Glock being carried "cocked"! Round in chamber, sure, cocked.............. there is no hammer in a real Glock. Trigger pulls firing pin back then releases it. Tsk, tsk McGuyver! :D

Rookie Ab September 6th, 2008 21:16

6004 USP round in chamber, hammer dropped,(first round double action)

sgtscarfy September 6th, 2008 21:31

Cocked, locked and ready to rock...



with the safety on...

Lakonian September 6th, 2008 21:36

1911 = Hammer cocked, thumb safety on.
Glock = chamber emptayy... "safe action" my butt.

F34N0R September 6th, 2008 21:40

p226 hammer down , round in chamber, i'm not a cowboy.

mcguyver September 6th, 2008 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 811758)
Lol at a real steel Glock being carried "cocked"! Round in chamber, sure, cocked.............. there is no hammer in a real Glock. Trigger pulls firing pin back then releases it. Tsk, tsk McGuyver! :D

Cocked means ready to fire. In a gun with an exposed hammer, that means it's quite visible. Round chambered in a Glock means it's cocked.

But when I use a SERPA, the gun can have the slide open and still be 100% retained in the holster. Not so with a Safariland.

And in a Glock, when you rack the slide back, you are puling back the firing pin and it's retainer. When you pull the trigger, you release the retainer, and the firing pin (more like a firing spring really), gets released. Pull the slide off a Glock and you'll see. You can release the retainer manually, even though the manual says not to.

Zilgorn_Zeypher September 7th, 2008 02:23

Always cocked and locked, died once from it not being ready to shoot

arman September 7th, 2008 02:52

COCKed and loaded ready to pull out and shoot you in the face....


and when i say you in the fase i mean anyone in the face

NovaKaynE September 7th, 2008 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by arman (Post 811959)
COCKed and loaded ready to pull out and shoot you in the face....

Get it? Get it? hehe


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