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L473ncy September 17th, 2009 21:14

Chinese crime ring turns Airsoft guns into real guns
 
http://nv.qianlong.com/33530/2009/09...21@5173026.htm

Maybe someone who understands Mandarin can translate the video but the jist of initial reports that I got is that a Crime ring in China was turning airsoft and pellet guns into guns that were lethal.

There are reports that the modified guns can release 12.10 Joules of energy based on tests done at the police station. (EDIT: Although that's highly unlikely but that's what I get based on the translation, it's probably 1.210 Joules (decimal place shifted during translation maybe?))

I'm not trying to start a "the sky is falling" scare but discuss this anyways.

Also note that most guns would just explode or you could only use it once if you managed to turn an airsoft into a real firearm. Also NOTE that the guns involved were NOT purely airsoft this included pellet guns too.

EDIT: Thank you SOCINCO for bringing some context into this "story".

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why this one got caught? because OCT 1st is the 60th chinese national day, the police want to show that they are working hard to make the public more safe!!!

Ronan September 17th, 2009 21:21

Meh, i can take a metal pipe from home depot, stick something in it + gunpowder or a couple firecracker and turn something innocent into a 'lethal weapon'.

Heck i can go kill people with spoons... Or a cup :D

Rainer September 17th, 2009 21:25

Guns aren't leathal weapons people are.

Outcast569 September 17th, 2009 21:29

Any garage or the contents under an average sink can be used with lethal effect.

Gunny_McSmith September 17th, 2009 21:34

lol... I can turn a disposable camera into a stun gun.....XD (it's true actually!)

aZn_triXta07 September 17th, 2009 21:37

I can throw a rock ... and I bet it'll exceed 12 Joules when it hits you.

Jimski September 17th, 2009 21:41

you could make 1-shot rifles and guns with some airsoft frames but not much more.
plus the 6mm caliber is not very convenient...
you could probably upgrade a co2 weapon to make it dangerous...

pusangani September 17th, 2009 21:44

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Originally Posted by Palucol (Post 1067280)
lol... I can turn a disposable camera into a stun gun.....XD (it's true actually!)

Yup, I made one and shocked my coworkers, I learned it on the youtube, they should ban youtube.

|^KKW^|lOnelyCot-_- September 17th, 2009 21:51

To be honest, to me, it just seems like they would have taken the casings of one? Because I think everyone here/we all know that an AEG cannot be made into a real gun. You would have to change the barrel, change internals, etc. Like I said, probably just took the casings. And like one guy said "I can just buy a metal rod and put some gunpowder in it, and it can be a lethal weapon". Very true.

cerealmaniac September 17th, 2009 21:56

i like how they used cardboard as a medium to test on. I'm pretty sure 12.10J(900FPS) can't kill a person. If you know how to read/listen to chinese you will realize that these guys are generalizing EVERYTHING. My guess is they're trying to convey negative images of guns instead of cracking down on crime rings. Seriously though, what kindda ghetto fire arms expert uses cardboard on a chair? I call BS on that one. If anybody wants me to translate the video i can post the subs here. Cheers

SOCINCO September 17th, 2009 21:59

it actually not a news in china any more if i remember correctly 6 month ago chinese custom seize about 20000 airsoft gun at ningbo when the company declare it as "resin craftwork"
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/...12-832160.html
as the chinese wepon legislation strictly forbidden any manufacture of airsoft gun or pellet gun or any repleca firearm. maybe even parts too but i am not sure about that!
however no one care because it always has a way to work around it!!
why this one got caught? because OCT 1st is the 60th chinese national day, the police want to show that they are working hard to makethe public more safe!!!

cerealmaniac September 17th, 2009 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOCINCO (Post 1067309)
it actually not a news in china any more if i remember correctly 6 month ago chinese custom seize about 20000 airsoft gun at ningbo when the company declare it as "resin craftwork"
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/...12-832160.html
as the chinese wepon legislation strictly forbidden any manufacture of airsoft gun or pellet gun or any repleca firearm. maybe even parts too but i am not sure about that!
however no one care because it always has a way to work around it!!
why this one got caught? because OCT 1st is the 60th chinese national day, the police want to show that they are working hard to makethe public more safe!!!

true that. thats the way of communism and its propaganda efforts. makes me sick..

AngelusNex September 18th, 2009 09:03

Lol, airsoft guns would be a horrible base for real guns... WAY too expensive for one shot throw aways.

Styrak September 18th, 2009 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1067245)
There are reports that the modified guns can release 12.10 Joules of energy based on tests done at the police station. (EDIT: Although that's highly unlikely but that's what I get based on the translation, it's probably 1.210 Joules (decimal place shifted during translation maybe?))]

My AUG can shoot 400 fps with 0.2, or 1.4 Joules.

They would not be dangerous at all if they are shooting 1.2 Joules.

CARL September 18th, 2009 10:13

Criminal organizations have been doing this for years, I think there was even a guy in Toronto years back that was caught doing the same thing.


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