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Old September 30th, 2009, 10:50   #232
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Originally Posted by kullwarrior View Post
Dude, nothing is solid at this point, and FYI VFC made the mag incompatable because of their idealogy on not stealing someone else's work. (One guy at arnie's actually ask them)
And honestly, I really doubt other system will sell as good as WA (since US can't allow WE) and WE. Unless you have like a swap bolt carrier and the mag works type of deal, its highly unlikely.
well from the pictures that i have seen of the VFC M4 GBBR, the only thing they changed on the mag is the valve layout. you can tell by looking that the firing block (valve striker pin assembly). it's different than the WA design, and it looks to me that they solved the issue of not being able to insert a mag with the hammer de-cocked.

as for the top section of the mag, it would seem that it's identical to the WA design, as the bolt looks to be the same design (with some improvements) as the WA. one of the changes to the bolt that i noticed is an integrated "NAPS"ish type system to adjust the FPS. the difference being that you adjust the FPS from a screw on top of the bolt(on the fake bolt cam pin).

it's also nice to see they are using a brass bushing on the hammer and not a steel bearing, and the new bolt catch design makes sence. this is far better then the WA design.

for whatever reason VFC made their mags incompatible with WA guns, i really could care less. if it's a better design that runs more efficient then thats where my money is going. so WA is currently the most popular and has the most aftermarket parts, so what.. what good is it to keep producing parts for a flawed design? the only thing that the WA has on the other GBBR (WE) is more aftermarket parts. if you need to replace the internals with "upgraded" yet still flawed by design parts, you are just throwing away your money.

i honestly think that we dont have any CO2 mags for the WA system due to it's problems and it's inefficient use of gas. if it runs like crap on propane, it'll run just as bad on CO2, so there really isnt any point in having CO2 mags until the issues with this system are sorted out and fixed.

i dont know what the WA design team was doing during the R&D of their magna system, but they should be fired.
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