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Old January 8th, 2011, 00:56   #7
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Originally Posted by AoiShikaku View Post
- why would or wouldn't you choose the Systema PTW as a gun?
- Can you think of an AEG (upgraded) that you would choose over it and why?
- What makes the Systema PTW better or worse than other upgraded AEGs out there?
- If you had an unlimited amount of money what M4A1 type gun would you end up buying?
I've had dozens of AEGs over the years...I've worked on, built, repaired, tweaked and tuned dozens of AEGs. If an make/model/type came out that drew my interest I either bought it, worked on one or got to play with it extensively.

...and here's what I have now.

1. WE GBBR M4...just plain fun and works well, weather permitting (temp sensitive). Go to primary for most every game this past year.

2. Systema PTW M4...this is my go to backup gun now, used to be primary go to rifle it worked so nice. I used to have two...one as a spare just in case one died. The spare sat untouched for over a year (other one never failed) and I sold it. They are SOLID rifles...no twisty/bendy/flexy/toy like feel like other AEGs. They SOUND different too...more of a sharp PAP sound vs. and AEG's zzzzz-pop sound.

3. KA Galil....V3 AEG goodness...just plain nice gun to shoot/use. V3's are solid. It's my loaner, backup, tickle my fancy for something different.

- why would or wouldn't you choose the Systema PTW as a gun?
* once it's reliable (older electronics were not so much)...it's solid as a brick shithouse
* pure simple "no fucking around" power level swap. Swap cylinder = done. * I can tear apart most any AEG and do whatever...but they're a pain in the ass in the end. Even if you broke down a PTW to it's individual parts they're ruggedly simple.
* trigger response performance. In essence...no "mechbox wind up" delay. I stopped shooting full auto with a PTW since it's so slick that you can double/triple tap off in semi

- Can you think of an AEG (upgraded) that you would choose over it and why?
* no...in that you have to goose an AEG quite a bit to get even near the same performance (and I worked hard at trying to). NOTE...with the ASCU you can get much closer than ever before...but not quite.
* yes...in that it's just plain fun to rock a different gun sometimes (i.e. SAW/AK/etc...)

- What makes the Systema PTW better or worse than other upgraded AEGs out there?
* they are near stupid simple to work on...you've got to use your brain and know what you're doing...but it's not the monkeying around that an AEG is
* Parts are expensive (i.e. motor, electronics, cylinders, etc...)...but they're usually very rugged and have high mileage runs of solid performance
* see other points

- If you had an unlimited amount of money what M4A1 type gun would you end up buying?
* WE GBBR...great bang for buck. Other good GBBRs out there too.
* PTW...I bought one...then bought another...if this one dies I'd buy another

....so, forget the GBBRs, if I could do it all over again and started with nothing... I'd skip right to a PTW, tweak the hopup, buy 3 boxes of saber mags and clean them out, buy a good supply of BBBastard 28's (my PTW loves them), buy Gold cylinder and a M90 spring, buy a second 9.6v battery and good smart charger. Yes....it'd be pricey, but that full cost pales in comparison of going through one AEG, upgrade after another upgrade, after another AEG, etc.....

There's lots of parts that can be tweaked/tuned on a PTW and some good things to do, I've found the following to be very, very handy:
1. Tweak the hopup roller/cage/barrel setup...there's the tackleberry mod/3 cushion/etc...thing. It works wonders. Set nicely and tuned to your BBs/power level...the range and accuracy you can get is just jaw dropping stunning. And deep down it's nice to have a chuckle when you setup beside some guy with a nice bolt action and just drill the guy he's been trying over and over to hit but can't quite get the hit on.

2. Have a spare set of electronics on hand...just in case. They take minutes to swap out if needed. I waterproofed mine with "spray electrical tape" and have shot right through every rain game that I've taken it out on.

3. You DON'T have buy a separate cylinder for each power level. For everything up to Gold you can just simply buy the spring. Swapping a different spring in takes minutes and is stupid simple. I used to have 3 cylinders...I only have one now, and a bunch of different springs. I think the springs were $30/each.

4. Spare other bits...I worked on a few PTWs and built a one or two...so I ended up with extra gears, electronics, motor, etc... Haven't had to use any of it...but it's good peace of mind. Parts may be pricey but are easy to get.


The ONLY definite "DO NOT BUY" reason I can think of is...your own budget. I will tell you flat out that this game sucks if you dump every penny you have into a nice rifle and a fancy optic...but don't have good boots and the rest of stuff you need to run at a game properly. Game day with suck for you...and your fellow teammates and shooters will give you the stink eye for dropping out early.

NOTE: I stopped keeping up with this version or that...I have no idea what tweaks are pre-done to the Supermax's. I do know they take a different cylinder due to the gearing though. The ones I've looked over are sweet though.
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