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I haven't heard of ANY CA's going down out of the box lately. Back in the day yes, but that was then, before I bought, this is now, where CA guns kick ass and always do.
CA actually does listen to their customers. It was evident when their products started to improve and it is on going. (the lube issue for example, I found my new CA to have plenty enough lube) That plus the obvious value over TM.
I feel I must speak out everytime this arguement comes up as guide new people into a (what a sure as hell think) smarter purchase.
TM ain't perfect either. And to me, making a realistic looking gun plastic automaticlly makes it loose 75% of it's effect on me. And say CA wasn't as good as it is, I'd rather have a broken CA than a working TM any day. It'll still cost me less.
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