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Old March 3rd, 2008, 00:40   #33
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Originally Posted by Fiya View Post
Actually, you CANT import, say 200 models. Or at least 200 at a time. There is a limit to 3 of a kind during importing. You would have to order many different kinds, maximum of 3 of each.
This is only true for those with a BFL for prohibited devices with a limits clauses. They limit retailers to an inventory of no more than 3 of any one model, which effectively translates into importing 3 (assuming the retailer possesses zero at the time). Guys like Canadian Tire (if they import directly, or if not then their supplier) for Crosman guns would be imprting hundreds or thousands of a single model at any one time. Think of how many gun shops, hardware stores, sporting good stores would carry the Crosman Colt Python "replica" for example.

The thing to keep in mind is, importing guns is an iffy business. Just because you think you understand the law does not mean an agency can't nail you with a policy that seemingly contradicts your interpretation of law, or even a reasonable interpretation by a legal professional.

Let's look at importing a PTW for example. Let's assume that you buy an off-the-shelf MAX gun from Redwolf. It will come with an M150. It makes it to the border and is seized, as you would expect, even though you claim it shoots 150 m/s (under the limit of 152.4 m/s). The CBSA says, "OK, we'll get it tested by the RCMP, and if it's true, you're fine". Sounds reasonable and seems to fit with their policies. The RCMP receives the gun and tests it. Do you think the M150 is consistant enough not to shoot over 500 fps (152.4m/s) knowing that some have clocked 550 fps, while others have been 480 fps? What if it clocks over? Even though the law reads 500 fps or 5.7J, it can and has been applied as 500 fps and 5.7J to determine legality. But it may not in fact be applied this way.

Now, let's assume that it clocks fine at under 500 fps. Now it would be considered a firearm. Selective-fire firearms in any form are illegal in Canada. So, could they nail you here as well? The only way to ensure that this is not an issue is to order a factory semi-auto only MAX gun, and have the cylinder verified to chrono under 500 fps with the most common ammo available, 0.20g as recommended by Systema in their supplied owner's manual. This will avoid any confusion over recommended ammo as the manufacturer specifies it and allow you some wiggle room if testing is done with other ammo weights.

This is all conjecture, as the 407 fps policy is an unofficial RCMP policy (you will not get it in print I promise you) that the CBSA and CITT have accepted for the purposes of framing policy. This is not in fact law at all, so you can challenge a policy directly in a CBSA appeal, but they can change the policy tomorrow to screw you in a different orifice. This policy has been circumvented by retailers in the past, and the door ended up getting slammed on them anyways.
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