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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:01   #31
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If like you say, you are interested in the highest accuracy then I have to say you need to buy a Taiwanese version KSC (Taiwanese generally have metal, Japanese version KSC are plastic)

They have incensed/full trademarks unlike almost every other manufacturer out there. Many of them even have serial numbers and the real patent numbers. I can't even find a "KSC" or "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in Japan" marking on my KSC guns. They are made exactly to resemble the real thing.

With KJW, you'll get things like KJW, Made in Taiwan, 6mm calibur, etc. on them.

-EDIT crow eaten. I was mistaken. I have only ever handled KJWs made for the US market so I should have kept my mouth shut
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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:28   #32
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With KJW, you won't get near the proper markings and you'll get things like KJW, Made in Taiwan, 6mm calibur, etc. on them. Same with TM and their own TM markings and warnings.
Yup sure looks like theres 6MM made in Taiwan all over my KJ.



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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:37   #33
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Yo you just got told yo.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Nice gun, 7.

And SHOCK, I dont think many KJW have crap markings on them, by buddy has 3, all with proper markings.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:50   #34
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Crow eaten. All the ones that I have personally seen have those markings. Maybe it's because they were for the American market.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:51   #35
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The only one I can think of that is all metal would be the new TM M4 SOPMOD.
....yup thats the only one I can think of.
There new AK's also are full metal, but use fake wood

Anyways back on topic......
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Old November 4th, 2009, 17:56   #36
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I couldnt help being a little facetius.
I found an old picture of a TM De hardkick I used to own.



As far as I can remember the other side was blank.

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There new AK's also are full metal, but use fake wood

Anyways back on topic......
TM AKs have always had the faux wood. Nice to know that TM puts some some metal bodied AKs, all a person would really ever need is a wood kit for an authentic feel.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 18:28   #37
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The only one I can think of that is all metal would be the new TM M4 SOPMOD.
....yup thats the only one I can think of.
your missing a couple more. Basically every new AEG done by TM in the last few years.

The SOPMOD, the Type 89, and a whole smattering of different AK varrients. I think they all use either version 8 or version 9 boxes, And of them except the type 89 have EBB features.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 19:04   #38
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I am just a lowely noob who plinks around with his gun, so take this with a grain of salt

I have a Jing Gong M4 S-System and I think that it is an awesome first gun.



The thing is 80% metal, and it has nice heavy and solid feel to it.

It shoots hard and straight and there are tons of accesories that you can add on to it, if thats your thing.

I believe that it is a TM clone, so upgrading it should be possible.

I have never gamed this gun so I can say what the long term reliability is like, but if it is a decent quality, inexpensive, mostly metal gun that you are after, you can't go wrong with Jing Gong (JG) IMHO.

As far as a GBB pistol goes, I started with a KSC - G18C which is all polymer on the outside and I think that it is a pretty fair representation of the real thing.



The thing is cool because it shoots in either semi or full automatic modes. It is however a little finicky, so I don't know if you would want it as your primary pistol that you use in a game.

If I knew then, what I know now, I would have started with a TM - 5.1 Hi-Capa.

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