Need help identifing Systema Gears

[Nova316]

Heya, I just got a gearbox and was wondering if anyone can figure out what type of systema gears they are. I tried to run them in my M4 EG1000 9.6V 1100mah gun but i cant even get it to turn or move I have no idea why.
Any help would be nice
Thanks again

Edit: I got it to work but it seems to just pull the piston all the way to the back then stop.

Also it doesnt seem like the stock CA gears because of the bezel gear is completely different from the www.wgcshop.com ones

SHIMMING was my problem thanks everyone again
I forgot to put the gears on the other side of the gearbox and check the spacing, it was horrible
So now it works

[damage]

It wont even turn you said. Shimming. That looks like a standard ratio gears.

[Nova316]

Thanks, I did shim them tho i guess not well enough cause when i dont have the cylinder or spring in they seem to turn freely
Thanks for the help

Well it does move but very slowly seems like it moves one tooth every trigger pull

[Kos-Mos]

What spring do you have?

Because mini packs are good with stock parts....

[Nova316]

Stock TM spring
K now that its shimmed right
all it does is wind up all the way to the back
then stop

[joaz]

that doesn't look like Systema gears.
more like old standard ratio CA gears or so.

[ILLusion]

Those are definitely not Systema gears, nor are they TM gears, Phoenix or Prometheus.

I'm not familiar with Guarder, G&P or CA gears, so I can't say for sure what they are.

If they're not turning over, I'd also go with Nova316's assumption that you have a poor shimming job.

[Nova316]

Thanks everyone...
Anyone figure out this gearset?

[Kampfer]

Not Guarder nor G&P.
G&G have their logo stamped too.

Anymore info about this gun / gears?
I am lazy to count every teeth so have you tried cycling the gearset with out the spring,piston, cylinder? Unless they are not the same set of gears ie one of them is from some other company which happen to fit in there, or one of the gear is off centered (like the new guarder FTK) you should be able to cycle them with your finger before you put the spring in.



edit: Didn't see the you had it compressed part.
Again try to manually cycle it with out a spring inside the mechbox.
Also a very remote chance(happened on a hard spring) the end of the spring coil expanded outward around the spring guide when it's compressed. (this happened on a ball bearing springguide and a MS135? spring) Do you notice any dammage or nicks around the end of the piston?

[wey ferro]

you live in calgs...bring your gun to me or johnny..it will endupat johnnys if you bring it to me,and we will shim it up using electronic calipers and clean it up and regrease it...should run perfect, we should also have any parts you might need in stock. pm my or johnnydo on here or asc.
thanks

[Nova316]

K so everything seems to be working the teeth are the same count as a TM stock gears, so thats a good sign
I got it shimmed i believe correctly, cause i got it to cycle once, then it wouldnt cycle again trying to figure that out at the moment

I would bring it to johnny but i want to try to figure this problem out myself first since it is my spare outdoor gearbox so i wont be using much besides my stock TM one does perfectly till i can get this one up and running

They look like CA torque up gears? according to wgcshop.com

They also cycle perfectly with my fingers, im guessing im still off with the shim job

[Kid]

Classic Army has a 'C.A.' on the flat side of their gears, so unless you didn't take a look at the other side, it won't be Classic Army either.

Keep looking...