New Saskatchewan airsoft site

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 01:48

Im sorry if I hit a nerve with some people that not what im trying to do, but I probley will set up a league any way cause I have 4 teams interested so far and i like a league setting and if its not for you and your team that is fine and i understand. I will be setting up and joining sims as well because I also really enjoy that type of atmosphere.

pusangani · April 13th, 2010, 01:48

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Originally Posted by capradon

I understand there is no league setting set up at all, and that kind of was the piont of my site and post. cause all the people that Im with in airsoft like the idea of a league. It would be nice to understand and get a better response other then "I just dont like" or hey "check the site there is no league in play"

because no one else has thought up this idea before you?

the people you are with wouldn't happen to be paintballers would they?

Competition brings out bad attitudes, cheating and other negative elements that have no place in Airsoft, things are just fine as they are, maybe just give it a try and get out to some real airsoft games and see how you like it.

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 01:53

Im a strong user of the pdw squads website and Ill keep using it and I have already been out to one of there events and I have 7 of us signed up for bootcamp. like i said this to mainly for fun and thats all that counts. but also fun for me is a league setting thats why im on here trying to see what people think and if any teams are interested. As for our area in the future I do want to host sims and events and that not to take anything away from pwd it's just for fun. thank you

BloodSport · April 13th, 2010, 01:54

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Originally Posted by capradon

Im sorry if I hit a nerve with some people that not what im trying to do, but I probley will set up a league any way cause I have 4 teams interested so far and i like a league setting and if its not for you and your team that is fine and i understand. I will be setting up and joining sims as well because I also really enjoy that type of atmosphere.

What 4 teams? Any of them listed below?

Known teams in Saskatchewan are:
Prairie Dogs of War
South Saskatchewan Mercenaries
3Para
Seals
Death Dealers
Freelance Mercenaries of Saskatchewam

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 01:56

If it's not for you then stay away from that type of game I believe myself and everyone understands thats thanks for your comments and end it

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 01:59

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Originally Posted by BloodSport

What 4 teams? Any of them listed below?

Known teams in Saskatchewan are:
Prairie Dogs of War
South Saskatchewan Mercenaries
3Para
Seals
Death Dealers
Freelance Mercenaries of Saskatchewam

Nope none of them well someone there team members, since I got my gun and have been promoting it Ive got pritty much all the people in my area that are buying guns and starting up teams of there own.

pusangani · April 13th, 2010, 02:01

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Originally Posted by capradon

If it's not for you then stay away from that type of game I believe myself and everyone understands thats thanks for your comments and end it

I do stay away from that kind of game, I stay away from paintball, that's why I play airsoft

You came here and proposed your idea and this is the feedback, you gotta take it whether it be good or bad

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani

I do stay away from that kind of game, I stay away from paintball, that's why I play airsoft

You came here and proposed your idea and this is the feedback, you gotta take it whether it be good or bad

I know that, thats what I asked for and I have thanked you for that.

Cushak · April 13th, 2010, 03:10

While I'm not into it, other guys can have league games all they want, as long as the don't let any of the 'negative issues' I see in many paintball games come with them when they play our usual style of milsim.

To each their own, and while it's true we don't have to come if we don't want, hopefully your guys watch that they don't bring a pure competition attitude to milsims. Friendly, honest competitiveness, sure.

TokyoSeven · April 13th, 2010, 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodSport

What 4 teams? Any of them listed below?

Known teams in Saskatchewan are:
Prairie Dogs of War
South Saskatchewan Mercenaries
3Para
Seals
Death Dealers
Freelance Mercenaries of Saskatchewam

Dont forget about us in Saskatoon! The 306 ops support may not be full blown active at this time but we are certainly not dead.

While I personally do not enjoy the idea of a league or competition like games, I do welcome additional players to the province as it is always great to see additional players popping up in Saskatchewan.

To everyone else who has decided to participate in this thread or decides that they have something to add, if you have nothing credible add aside from snarky criticism then keep your comment to yourself and stay the fuck out. Ive already had to clean this thread of few douchey comments. I will issue infractions to anyone who decides to post more garbage.

As stated before, I may not agree on the style of play but I welcome additional players to the province as an expanding player base is always a good thing.

Best of luck with your new website.

Styrak · April 13th, 2010, 03:18

What do you plan on retailing, by the way?

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Styrak

What do you plan on retailing, by the way?

Most of our ideas and plans most likely won't happen this season and if they do it will be closer to the end, I wanna meet everyone and have a good time first. what we are going to retail is mainly AEG's and parts, gear, and supplies. I know there is a few guys already doing some of this and I don't wanna step on any toes. Thats why I wanna meet everyone and see what is needed and maybe work with some of the guys. We bought a 14ft incloses trailer that we plan on stocking up to bring to every event, might bring to to bootcamp.

Arnisador · April 13th, 2010, 12:55

WARNING Wall of Text

In general, more players is a good thing. Makes for a more target rich environment for us

As I mentioned to you on Saturday Cap, there's "elitist" types of all ranges, but so long as you keep your nose clean and don't get too confrontational, you'll find most airsofters are pretty welcoming to new players.

League play is touchy though. A lot of players left that kind of competative game behind when they left paintball to play airsoft.

Most of the active players in Saskatchewan, with more than 2 years of play under their belts, are very familiar with the notion of mil-sim vs skirmish. Most have taken the bootcamp that PDW runs every year as preparation for a season of mil-sim events to come. Its not to say that people don't skirmish, but it seems that if players can only commit to one or two games a month, they tend to save their time for an organized event where they can share the field with 20-100 other players in a bigger game, rather than just a series of 5 on 5. Not to say that you won't get interest, but you likely won't get a lot of interest from the current established playing base because we tend to gravitate more towards mil-sim or themed games.

When I started PDW back in 2000, it was intended as a team/club for players with the following common goals: wanting to play gi joe with guns that looked like guns and not super soakers, wanting to play dressup in camoflage not neon jerseys, and full-auto baby! Even some of the original MAA players might recall our old Op:Stubblejumper games where we started playing more mission based games, instead of just elimination or arena play. And prairie milsim has evolved a lot over the past decade. Westcan, Keystone Strike series, Thunderball, FierySpoon, etc. etc. I know of groups playing and planning zombie style games.

There ARE some competative game styles out there. I know that some airsofters do an IPSC style league, but by its nature its more an individual thing than a team thing. There are skills competition style meets that are played and planned. But not much for "league play" if you are referring to paintball styled arena ball with 5vs5 games. I don't personally know of any of these types of leagues, but then, I hardly know everything about airsoft in Canada.

In a typical milsim you may see Team A Main objective, defend the airfield (with 15 sub-missions). Team B Main objective, capture the scientists (with 10 sub-missions). Team A will have 50 players. Team B will have 30. Will there be head to head action? Will there be intense firefights? Will there be a clear winner of the game? The answers are: Yes, yes, possibly maybe depending on how the missions go.

You can't get the kind of equal rules you would in a 5v5 league game, but for people who like sims, you get just as much fun and satisfaction in playing, even if there is no clear "winner" of a match.

Are you confident in your abilities to read a map and compass, bushwack through heavy undergrowth to find your supply cashe, call in your coordinates for an emergency evac, assist the combat engineer in wiring up the building to explode and do so while under fire, people screaming for medics and mommy all around you, and a creeping artillery barrage has you pinned down? If this is the kind of challenge your players are looking for, then by all means, attend a mil-sim game. If your players are preferring a 5vs5 format, then I wish you best of luck on your league and we'll possibly see you at the next skirmish instead.

Re: retailing

Based on the links on their page, looks like a possible deal is being worked out with Velocity Arms.

More retailers in general, is likely a good thing.

Unless it leads to an influx of under-18 players who have no respect for the established rules and established community.

Note: This is not to say that there aren't over-18 douchebags. But said douchebags CAN be charged for their idiocy because they are 18. Like the twit in Greer Court who was caught after shooting two kids with pellets during the easter break last week.

IMO, under 18 players in Saskatchewan that have turned out ok, are the exception, not the rule. Our local communtiy is pretty strict about who we bring into the hobby.

Shlappy · April 13th, 2010, 13:27

I think I mentioned on the PDW boards that you can choose what you make of Airsoft.. if you have the numbers to start a 5 on 5 league I wish you nothing but the best.

However, I would suggest that before you dive into what you believe airsoft is/should be that you attend more than the one skirmish that you attended this past weekend.

I think it would be prudent to try out the bootcamp and maybe a milsim or two to see if the style of play we value here in saskatchewan is something you are looking for out of the sport. You will find that the vast majority of players who frequent sites like airsoft canada and the pdw boards enjoy skirmishing and milsim type events and are quite vocal about their objections in bringing in a paintball type atmosphere into their beloved hobby.

I can speak for my team that playing in a tourney type atmosphere would not be something we would be interested in.

Best of luck Dennis in getting what you want out of the sport!!

Cheers,

Cory

capradon · April 13th, 2010, 23:03

hey guys, ya I was just trying to see if there was anyother interest, we have enough guys and our own land to play league games on it. Its fine that there isn't much of a interest its understandable. As for sims I'm really looking forward into playing those as well and would love to help any way i can. I fell in love with the sport and Id play it every chance I get. Thank you for all your comments and I look forward in seeing everyone at the bootcamp and at up and coming events.

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April 13th, 2010, 01:48	#16
capradon Banned Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pilot Butte, sask.	as for league Im sorry if I hit a nerve with some people that not what im trying to do, but I probley will set up a league any way cause I have 4 teams interested so far and i like a league setting and if its not for you and your team that is fine and i understand. I will be setting up and joining sims as well because I also really enjoy that type of atmosphere.

April 13th, 2010, 01:53	#18
capradon Banned Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pilot Butte, sask.	comment on bloodsport Im a strong user of the pdw squads website and Ill keep using it and I have already been out to one of there events and I have 7 of us signed up for bootcamp. like i said this to mainly for fun and thats all that counts. but also fun for me is a league setting thats why im on here trying to see what people think and if any teams are interested. As for our area in the future I do want to host sims and events and that not to take anything away from pwd it's just for fun. thank you

April 13th, 2010, 01:56	#20
capradon Banned Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pilot Butte, sask.	comment for pus If it's not for you then stay away from that type of game I believe myself and everyone understands thats thanks for your comments and end it

April 13th, 2010, 03:10	#24
Cushak Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saskatoon/Moose Jaw	While I'm not into it, other guys can have league games all they want, as long as the don't let any of the 'negative issues' I see in many paintball games come with them when they play our usual style of milsim. To each their own, and while it's true we don't have to come if we don't want, hopefully your guys watch that they don't bring a pure competition attitude to milsims. Friendly, honest competitiveness, sure.

April 13th, 2010, 03:18	#26
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	What do you plan on retailing, by the way? __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

April 13th, 2010, 12:55	#28
Arnisador Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan	WARNING Wall of Text In general, more players is a good thing. Makes for a more target rich environment for us As I mentioned to you on Saturday Cap, there's "elitist" types of all ranges, but so long as you keep your nose clean and don't get too confrontational, you'll find most airsofters are pretty welcoming to new players. League play is touchy though. A lot of players left that kind of competative game behind when they left paintball to play airsoft. Most of the active players in Saskatchewan, with more than 2 years of play under their belts, are very familiar with the notion of mil-sim vs skirmish. Most have taken the bootcamp that PDW runs every year as preparation for a season of mil-sim events to come. Its not to say that people don't skirmish, but it seems that if players can only commit to one or two games a month, they tend to save their time for an organized event where they can share the field with 20-100 other players in a bigger game, rather than just a series of 5 on 5. Not to say that you won't get interest, but you likely won't get a lot of interest from the current established playing base because we tend to gravitate more towards mil-sim or themed games. When I started PDW back in 2000, it was intended as a team/club for players with the following common goals: wanting to play gi joe with guns that looked like guns and not super soakers, wanting to play dressup in camoflage not neon jerseys, and full-auto baby! Even some of the original MAA players might recall our old Op:Stubblejumper games where we started playing more mission based games, instead of just elimination or arena play. And prairie milsim has evolved a lot over the past decade. Westcan, Keystone Strike series, Thunderball, FierySpoon, etc. etc. I know of groups playing and planning zombie style games. There ARE some competative game styles out there. I know that some airsofters do an IPSC style league, but by its nature its more an individual thing than a team thing. There are skills competition style meets that are played and planned. But not much for "league play" if you are referring to paintball styled arena ball with 5vs5 games. I don't personally know of any of these types of leagues, but then, I hardly know everything about airsoft in Canada. In a typical milsim you may see Team A Main objective, defend the airfield (with 15 sub-missions). Team B Main objective, capture the scientists (with 10 sub-missions). Team A will have 50 players. Team B will have 30. Will there be head to head action? Will there be intense firefights? Will there be a clear winner of the game? The answers are: Yes, yes, possibly maybe depending on how the missions go. You can't get the kind of equal rules you would in a 5v5 league game, but for people who like sims, you get just as much fun and satisfaction in playing, even if there is no clear "winner" of a match. Are you confident in your abilities to read a map and compass, bushwack through heavy undergrowth to find your supply cashe, call in your coordinates for an emergency evac, assist the combat engineer in wiring up the building to explode and do so while under fire, people screaming for medics and mommy all around you, and a creeping artillery barrage has you pinned down? If this is the kind of challenge your players are looking for, then by all means, attend a mil-sim game. If your players are preferring a 5vs5 format, then I wish you best of luck on your league and we'll possibly see you at the next skirmish instead. Re: retailing Based on the links on their page, looks like a possible deal is being worked out with Velocity Arms. More retailers in general, is likely a good thing. Unless it leads to an influx of under-18 players who have no respect for the established rules and established community. Note: This is not to say that there aren't over-18 douchebags. But said douchebags CAN be charged for their idiocy because they are 18. Like the twit in Greer Court who was caught after shooting two kids with pellets during the easter break last week. IMO, under 18 players in Saskatchewan that have turned out ok, are the exception, not the rule. Our local communtiy is pretty strict about who we bring into the hobby. __________________ It doesn't seem much, to stir a man's soul. Just a moth eaten rag on a worm eaten pole. But 'tis the deeds that were done 'neath this moth eaten rag, when the pole was a staff, and the rag was a flag. CUM CATAPULTAE PROSCRIPTAE ERUNT TUM SOLI PROSCRIPT CATAPULTAS HABEBUNT

April 13th, 2010, 13:27	#29
Shlappy Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Regina, SK	I think I mentioned on the PDW boards that you can choose what you make of Airsoft.. if you have the numbers to start a 5 on 5 league I wish you nothing but the best. However, I would suggest that before you dive into what you believe airsoft is/should be that you attend more than the one skirmish that you attended this past weekend. I think it would be prudent to try out the bootcamp and maybe a milsim or two to see if the style of play we value here in saskatchewan is something you are looking for out of the sport. You will find that the vast majority of players who frequent sites like airsoft canada and the pdw boards enjoy skirmishing and milsim type events and are quite vocal about their objections in bringing in a paintball type atmosphere into their beloved hobby. I can speak for my team that playing in a tourney type atmosphere would not be something we would be interested in. Best of luck Dennis in getting what you want out of the sport!! Cheers, Cory __________________

April 13th, 2010, 23:03	#30
capradon Banned Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pilot Butte, sask.	hey guys, ya I was just trying to see if there was anyother interest, we have enough guys and our own land to play league games on it. Its fine that there isn't much of a interest its understandable. As for sims I'm really looking forward into playing those as well and would love to help any way i can. I fell in love with the sport and Id play it every chance I get. Thank you for all your comments and I look forward in seeing everyone at the bootcamp and at up and coming events.

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