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Old December 12th, 2012, 17:43   #16
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actually I've ended up with some BBs in my silencer on the g36.. not quite sure how, could be those really slow rounds at the top of the midcap when I fill it up, or could be something else... have to game it more to find out.
It means either your inner barrel is slightly skewed or the silencer is. Also can be due to over hop or your typical flyers that are due to a variety or reasons.


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Silencers on airsoft is only for looks or hide longer inner barrels...the noise is from your gearbox, piston, etc...there have already been a thread on this topic....DO YOUR SeARCH....

Now on a real firearm, it is a different story...
I beg to differ. Yes the noise is primarily from the mech box and motor but down range a silencer will change the report and often deaden the sound.

Also on a GBBR, a good silencer will act as a real one would on a real gun.

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Old December 12th, 2012, 18:16   #17
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Also on a GBBR, a good silencer will act as a real one would on a real gun.
foam filled "silencers" make P* rifles nearly silent. They sound like the mouse farts from the movies :P
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Old December 12th, 2012, 18:40   #18
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Power up silencers for mp7 and mp9 will increase range and accuracy, or at least, is supposed to. Those silencers are made by angry gun. Those 2 are the only 2 avaiable on the market able do " increase accuracy" others are simply cosmetic and or hiding a longer barrel upfront
Two stage innerbarrel NEVER increases accuracy
You'll never see a video of a retailer testing the range -because the second barrel actually alter the direction.

It's a great concept, however poorly executed.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 19:35   #19
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Depends on your internal setup really
But foam filled suppressors with small exit apertures will definitely reduce your down range noise profile
But it may do next to nothing from where you are shooting the gun.

For example, my VSR sounds like it clacks pretty good when I have my ear right next to the bolt, but from only 15 feet away all you hear is a light click of the trigger and a BB whizzing around

On AEG's, they are primarily for reducing long range noise, like out at 140+ feet, they can be REALLY effective at that. But for CQB purposes, it's really just aesthetic.

Now there are other things you can do to make your AEG really quiet, but that deserves another thread
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Old December 12th, 2012, 20:12   #20
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Power up silencers for mp7 and mp9 will increase range and accuracy, or at least, is supposed to. Those silencers are made by angry gun. Those 2 are the only 2 avaiable on the market able do " increase accuracy" others are simply cosmetic and or hiding a longer barrel upfront
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Two stage innerbarrel NEVER increases accuracy
You'll never see a video of a retailer testing the range -because the second barrel actually alter the direction.

It's a great concept, however poorly executed.
Correct....

But IMO, the second inner is actually long enough to restabilize the BB and send it along its way....the increase in flyers and general decrease in precision comes from the BB being damaged at the transition and hopup effect being scrubbed off after the transition bounce.

Agreed...cool idea but less than ideal execution
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:12   #21
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hence why I said " increase accuracy"

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Two stage innerbarrel NEVER increases accuracy
You'll never see a video of a retailer testing the range -because the second barrel actually alter the direction.

It's a great concept, however poorly executed.
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Not completely right



Correct....

But IMO, the second inner is actually long enough to restabilize the BB and send it along its way....the increase in flyers and general decrease in precision comes from the BB being damaged at the transition and hopup effect being scrubbed off after the transition bounce.

Agreed...cool idea but less than ideal execution
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:11   #22
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No harm/foul...I suppose when Kull and I read that it may not have come across the way you meant it.

Your fist sentence reads like you're stating that it does do those things in your opinion/experience. Not what you meant then....more what you've read and are reiterating from marketing hype/claims vs. actual observation from use?

Happens all the time on the internet.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 15:46   #23
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It means either your inner barrel is slightly skewed or the silencer is. Also can be due to over hop or your typical flyers that are due to a variety or reasons.
I'm reasonably convinced it's due to the first 10-20 rounds in my midcaps not feeding very well... I will have to make a few adjustments to the tappet plate and spring after I do some more testing. I've only gamed the gun 2 times, and both were still when the hopup wasn't sealing very well to the nozzle. I will be sure to get it resolved before nightfall2... you bitches don't know which beast you'll see :P Could be the p90 again... could be the g36.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 18:22   #24
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A suppressor can clip a bb if the suppressor is long with a exit hole too small and the suppressor does not mount true to the barrel axis. A bb leaving the inner rises slightly due to hop up.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 18:51   #25
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I'm reasonably convinced it's due to the first 10-20 rounds in my midcaps not feeding very well... I will have to make a few adjustments to the tappet plate and spring after I do some more testing. I've only gamed the gun 2 times, and both were still when the hopup wasn't sealing very well to the nozzle. I will be sure to get it resolved before nightfall2... you bitches don't know which beast you'll see :P Could be the p90 again... could be the g36.
Short load the mag by 20 rounds and test your theory out.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 19:19   #26
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Put on a longer tight bore barrel and get increased accuracy!
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Old December 13th, 2012, 19:54   #27
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Put on a longer tight bore barrel and get increased accuracy!
this isn't real steel, longer barrel does not increase your accuracy by any significant amount.
It's all about compression, bore quality, hop rubber, and selecting the right BB weight for your FPS
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Old December 13th, 2012, 20:44   #28
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this isn't real steel, longer barrel does not increase your accuracy by any significant amount.
It's all about compression, bore quality, hop rubber, and selecting the right BB weight for your FPS
It helps but yeah, My 7.5 inch KAC PDW out ranges some "designated sniper platforms" with ridiculous long barrels.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 23:36   #29
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ok so i mostly seem that it wont improve accuracy and may also affect the bb i guess no silencer cue 007 theme
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Old December 14th, 2012, 08:34   #30
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I have a foam filled one and in about a week when I get to put it all together I'll post the results. My mock silencer also has + & - threads on both sides of the tube, aluminum tube but plastic screw caps. IF the BB's flight gets disrupted enough to clip the exit hole I'm pretty sure it will break the screw cap.
I'll also try to test the accuracy before and after but my space for testing is very limited and results will probably be inconclusive.
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