Ban on "toy" guns in Toronto

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Man Solo

This is awesome!
Ok someone has to correct me if I am wrong. The the way that I read it, I see nothing that says people over the age of 18 (ie me) cannot own, transport, or use replica firarms.
There is also nothing that says I cannot brandish them in public.
Is there some other law that I am unaware of?
I was under the impression that replica's were illeagle to ANYONE. That is why airsoft is in constant jeapordy. I thought they are in kind of a grey area, being not really a replica because it can fire bb's, replica's being defined as "non-firing".
Does this mean airsoft is actually legal?

You thought wrong... Jeez have you read the law?

We have talked about this exact issue at TTAC3 many times Man Solo.. and you were in the room....but clearly not listening...

Airsoft weapons have never been illegal....but they are proscribed under the criminal code... as long as you agree that they are replicas, Of course some people still cling to the idea that something sold on the basis that it is a 1:1 replica of a real weapon is not in fact a replica.

Replicas are the only prohibited devise that you can own and transport without a license if you are over 18.

There is nothing in the definition of a replica that says anything about firing, non firing..bla bla bla.. A replica is anything that looks like a firearm but is not a firearm.. full stop.

The relevant sections of the Criminal code are posted at www.ttac3.factoronto.com

I'm not interested in debating this... Read the law..
I've talked to the police.. criminal and civil lawyers .. and I assure you the status of replicas is anything but grey.
The only thing grey or hazy is most people's understanding of the law... evident from your statment.

[Gato]

This is pointless and i HIGHLY doubt it will work even if it becomes a reality because what do kids do when they can't afford or find a toy gun ? they make one be it one they cut out of wood themselfes (i did it ALL the time) or a simple stick ( strangely enough you CAN find some stick that could be mistaken for a gun if your not right next to it)

[sam0182]

This looks like a good thing!

[Ronald Chang]

The mayor and police should focus all their effort in fighting against REAL gun shot crime committed by the gangsters first. Period.

[Gato]

Originally Posted by Ronald Chang

The mayor and police should focus all their effort TIME AND MONEY in fighting against REAL gun shot crime committed by the CRIMINALS first. Period.

Fixed and i fully agree with you.

[made Man]

Another bylaw aimed at pussifing people. Argh, soccermoms should be punched in the ovaries so they cant be moms anymore.

[Mafioso_Grande]

I dunno. I can sort of understand this... so long as it only applies to "replica" looking guns. I look at it as a way of protecting police from the possibility of shooting a kid who turned out to be carrying a fake. Hell, the coolest toy guns I ever had - dart guns, nerf, supersoakers - didn't look real in the slightest. Banning those would be too ridiculous for words.

[dead_aim]

i just saw this on city tv....they showed box loads of springers...didnt know what brand but most of them had orange tips..

[aZn_triXta07]

The reason why they are addressing this because a few days ago a police officer was shot in the ear with a pellet gun by a bunch of 12-14 yr olds

[trufret]

How about we ban everything previous generations did as kids so soon no kid will go outside ever!!! That way they can all become morbidly obease fucktards who play Halo all day while yelling at their mom to bring them more ice tea until the forklift comes to move them to the couch for the next exciting episode of American Idol

[Affliction]

Originally Posted by cancer

The move to prohibit anyone under 18 from having toy guns in public spaces

This is an excellent bylaw.

My only concern is that soccer moms will push this bylaw so that it extends to airsofters above the age of 18.

[yanhchan]

I've seen a few stupid high school kids near the bus stop using dollar store cap guns and shooting into the air....If I was a cop I'd just shoot the fucker and be like...oh he pointed it at me...

[Dracheous]

As much as I do agree with going after the crooks and not honest joe here... I do like the idea of having the law against 18 yearolds... cause then we don't have to put up with... "I'm a responsible 15 year old looking for some advice and a place to play"... and when told to wait three years.. he chances his profile age to 19!.... we just say.. "no... against law... nothing more..."... ... save us all some time and patiences

[TheYellowDart]

Seems like a good thing to me. 8 year old kids playing with realistic cap guns will not be bothered because nobody will call the cops on them and a passing cop wouldn't care. This bylaw allows cops to actually fine those 16 year olds who shoot air pistols at people and break the windows of neighbours. Before, the cops would just take their guns away, but not do anything further, because criminal charges seemed a little heavy handed. Now, they, or their parents, will be fined $150 so the point comes across more clear.

[goughbrandon]

just saw this on global news. as far as i see it, the guns looks like just plastic look alikes that don't fire anything, and besides they all had orange tips on them