possibility of a ASC "Guntech" Tag?

[lemegacool]

i cant believe it... i tought about it all week while welding ... thats fucking weird!

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by pusangani

a few? I could only think of one

I've been into airsoft less than 2 years. I've built 2 badass custom guns from the ground up (including the mechboxes) - easily the most consistent and best shooting guns I've ever laid hands on, plus repaired, upgraded, modded, etc my other guns to the nuts. And I've assisted a couple of other friends with their repairs. Despite that, I wouldn't even come close to considering myself a gun doc. Yet, there are others with less hands on experience that do... yeah, one in particular, but there are more...

[lemegacool]

me too, built stuff from scratch (even custom welded stock screw) upgraded many aegs gbbs and i'm not considering myself a guntech, i fixes my friends guns but i'm not charging anything! i love to fix guns!

[BloodSport]

Originally Posted by The Saint

This isn't the first time it's been suggested. It's on a very long waiting list of "maybe's" that will eventually be studied.

very very very long list, and near the bottom of it to boot.

[Desmodus]

Originally Posted by Amos

Hey... Know how we have all these pretty "Retailer, Age Verified, Verifier" and all those tags?

I'm wondering if it would be possible to create another tag for proven ASC guntechs... so people would know the difference between the advice that some one's had good experience with... or the advice of some one who's bashed an AEG with a monkey-wrench and called it fixed.

By proven... I mean something like... You have to have at least 10 people that you've worked on their guns (that would be willing to post on ASC and actually confirm it), and that would recommend you for the tag.... Because lets be honest... There's some "1337 gun techs" out there... that REALLY shouldn't be referring to themselves as "gun techs"

Thoughts?

lmfao, loving the low-blows....
but anyway... a gun-tech tag would be pretty useful!

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Con3jo

lmfao, loving the low-blows....
but anyway... a gun-tech tag would be pretty useful!

No seriously... I'm not going to name any names...

But there's at least 3 people on ASC that are ALWAYS giving absolutely terrible advice and offering to fix people's guns for money..

There's a couple guys locally too... I've had to fix 4 guns that've been to one self-proclaimed "tech"... Now I just as who's worked on it before and if the person in particular's name comes up... It's simple as "Oh.. That's your problem"

[ujiro]

Yeah this would be great to implement because it would give a good idea of whose advice to take as an experienced opinion, and whose to take with a grain of salt. Would be useful for aspiring gun docs such as myself as well because then there is a point where you can tell that you have actually established a reputation.

So I agree, it would be good to implement. But as the staff have said, there are a lot of other things that I am sure are much more important to put into place before this. However hopefully one day we will be able to get all of these useful ideas up and running. Just a matter of time.

[Drake]

Here's an idea, why don't people put up reviews of the gun techs they use?

If you buy a used gun from someone and it doesn't work, you'd post neg feedback.

If you get your gun worked on by someone and you have to get it fixed by someone else a month later, doesn't that deserve mention too?

[Donster]

i love the idea! now if i can just move Tys closer to my house

[Brian McIlmoyle]

can find out who and who does not have a clue with respect to "airsofttech" ability in any given region.

a simple... "who's a good airsofttech round here?" inquiry would do it.

or look in the gun doc threads...

you can tell who has a clue and who does not.

in my opinion .. there are 3 classes of people who work on guns

1. a buddy who has his gun apart .. and put it back together and it still works ..so you're willing to let him try it with your gun... good for simple upgrades. or minor repairs. Good for making a working gun work better.

2. a "Gun Doc" who has some diagnostic savvy and can take a gun from something is wrong .. to "there its working" Can tune a working gun to make it work better.

3. "Airsofttechnician" can scratch build guns from a collection of parts. can diagnose complex problems and tune guns to perfection. can fix guns that "gun Docs" get stumped on. Capable of getting the most performance out of every gun they work on.

[Drake]

Hrm, maybe it would be possible for admins to set up a specific "Gun Doc" section, with the list of gun docs (I think it's currently buried in the FAQ), and people can post reviews, sorta like for retailers.

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

can find out who and who does not have a clue with respect to "airsofttech" ability in any given region.

a simple... "who's a good airsofttech round here?" inquiry would do it.

or look in the gun doc threads...

you can tell who has a clue and who does not.

I think the problem with that is for really new people who don't know who's who, nor what's good or bad advice.

There's instances in the Newbie Tank of the blind leading the blind, and the same could potentially happen for gun docs.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Drake

Here's an idea, why don't people put up reviews of the gun techs they use?

If you buy a used gun from someone and it doesn't work, you'd post neg feedback.

If you get your gun worked on by someone and you have to get it fixed by someone else a month later, doesn't that deserve mention too?

I'd agree with that to a point, but then again, look at the gun review section and how many noobs post reviews of their "totally awesome" Tactical Force TF16 (or similar piece of junk) that they've had for 3 hours and are gushing over it. And then subsequently, there's a post in the gun doc section because their new gun "stopped working".

People with more experience can easily filter out these reviews, but to noobs who don't know any better, it's not so apparent. I'm afraid it would be the same for gun doc reviews in many cases.

[BlackRain]

I think the tags are a good idea... I was inquiring myself about a field owner tag not so long ago.

[m102404]

I could care less about getting a tag in my sig/under my username/etc...I can barely keep up with the repairs each week that I already get. Aside from a note in my sig line...I can't recall that I've ever sought out repair work, most if not all of it comes from referrals or from someone who's read one of your posts (see last point below).

However, to offer what is hopefully something helpfull...

1. Forum Specific
If there were to be another section, I would most like to see a forum where anyone could post an issue and only have "competent" persons reply. Note: even "compentent" people make bone-head mistakes...like shorting out a fully charged 9.6v PTW battery...which will catch fire nicely......at least it was my own...

Perhaps a forum section with "gun docs" as moderators, who can pull together the most valuable questions and valid answers to help others "sift through the junk (aka...Sunil's posts...haha just kidding)".

2. Gun Doc Services vs. Helping Someone Out
I personally believe that when you accept money for repairs, builds, tune ups, whatever...you're acting as a "gun doc". ASC tag or not. If you're taking a crack at fixing up your teammates' rifles for free...you may put in the same effort, but you're not putting the same inherent commitment into it.

Once paid for your work, you assume some sort of responsibility for that work despite these things being tempermental toys. I've ALWAYS offered help for something that's broken down after the fact so that my customers are happy....it may not always be taken (waiting to hear back from Chad...), but that's just the way life goes.

This integrity has to be from the individual.

3. Competency
There is a world of difference between being compentent with a Kraken and Element parts...and knowing the in's and out's of "higher-end" AEGs. Same with "normal" AEGs vs. PTWs vs. GBB pistols/rifles vs. Spring guns vs. "classic" airsoft.

There's also wild differences between a "run-of-the-mill" M4 and a Scorpion, and a Barret, and a M60, and a RS AK vs. TM AK....etc.... I haven't even seen some AEGs/Airsoft guns...but I'm working on that

Being competent on a given make does not necessarily translate to "all" AEGs. From what I've observed...you've got to take what you've seen, figure out what/why things work and apply those priciples to what's in front of you on your bench.

4. Testing...LOL!
That'd be awesome...just for a laugh. You could mail each applicant a baggie of parts and have them reassemble an AEG (I've received an AEG in a baggie on more than one occasion)...or have them identify BB brands blindfolded by taste alone...HAHAHA. I'll pass on that, thank you though.

5. Communication
This is what I feel is most important. When someone comes to you for repairs/tune ups/builds/whatever...they're trusting your advice on what/how to best spend their hard earned money. In turn, a "gun doc" has the responsibility to communicate with the customer in terms and on levels where they are fully (or as fully as they care to be) informed. This sets an even level of expectations and helps things go smoothly. Common sense really...but it's often neglected.

Wish list...

If there is a "gun doc" moderated section...any Docs habitually posting L33t speak, non-sensible, half-sentence, mis-spelt, poorly formatted, incomplete replies should have their "tag"/whatever revoked or suspended. (long, run on, grammatically incorrect sentences for effect excluded, of course...).

[lt_poncho]

Ty you crack me up. I love reading your posts.