Field Rules and Disciplinary action

Jimski · October 21st, 2009, 21:35

what? you weren't given the list?

m102404 · October 21st, 2009, 22:35

I have a list.

It's short...because very few people are beyond salvage.

wildcard · October 21st, 2009, 22:53

Anyone who knowingly put another player in harms way by his/her actions such as discharging his AEG/GBB in a safe zone have no business playing airsoft or have anything to do with the community. this individual should be banned for life, shit happen in the field, it's only a game.
To deliberately hurt someone else for a game?? come on grow the fuck up, if you can't stand being shot from up close or being mercied than I suggest you should leave and go play something else more suited to your liking. As screwed up as some of us are, we draw the line when it comes to endangering another player and no way that this should be tolerated with a simple short period suspension.

Scarecrow · October 21st, 2009, 23:26

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Originally Posted by FOX_111

You guys went easy on this.

If it was on my field:

Using an airsoft gun with the intention to cause injury = lifelong ban
Assaulting another player = lifelong ban

Never forget that our toys can easely become weapons, and it should be treated as such outside of normal play.

Thank you Fox, that was what I was about to post. Not to mention both players could be up on criminal assault and weapons dangerous charges. When you point an airsoft gun and use it in anger, it is no longer a toy, it is a firearm. If it were my call, both players would be done forever with airsoft. All we would need is someone with a camera and a youtube account and it would be the biggest setback for Canadian airsoft this side of CBSA. F**king idiots.

Drache · October 21st, 2009, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Thank you Fox, that was what I was about to post. Not to mention both players could be up on criminal assault and weapons dangerous charges. When you point an airsoft gun and use it in anger, it is no longer a toy, it is a firearm. If it were my call, both players would be done forever with airsoft. All we would need is someone with a camera and a youtube account and it would be the biggest setback for Canadian airsoft this side of CBSA. F**king idiots.

And yet if these CHARGES that you talk about go to a court of law what do you think that would do to the sport of airsoft?

"Your honor we were playing around with a bunch of replica firearms and he assaulted me with one during the "time out session" at a local game" by shooting me in the back numerous times".

That's just as bad as someone posting a "video on youtube".

Scarecrow · October 22nd, 2009, 00:21

I agree - if either party pursued it, its liable to go that way in a court of law. That was my point. The other point is where an AEG can be interpreted as a weapon and an assault occurs - you don't need charges, what was described here was plainly assault in two forms. I'm not suggesting someone pursue it, however, the fact remains it occurred and those are the potential legal consequences as a result of spectacularly bad judgment and loss of emotional control - over what? A game. Pathetic really.

Drache · October 22nd, 2009, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

I agree - if either party pursued it, its liable to go that way in a court of law. That was my point. The other point is where an AEG can be interpreted as a weapon and an assault occurs - you don't need charges, what was described here was plainly assault in two forms. I'm not suggesting someone pursue it, however, the fact remains it occurred and those are the potential legal consequences as a result of spectacularly bad judgment and loss of emotional control - over what? A game. Pathetic really.

Yeah it's sad really and then add supposed racism on top of that?

The last thing we need is airsoft to go the way of the "original" lawn dart....

Dart · October 22nd, 2009, 01:41

Dealing with the matter in a civilized manner outside of the court room would be the most logical answer if either of them cared about the sport. I know for a fact that one of them is trying to pursue it in this manner. The last thing this sport needs is this kind of bad publicity.

Some times we loose our heads, ever think that the reason the person reacted like that was to "removed the threat?" There for if it ever does go to court it will be established as self defense. Getting shot in the back with people around? You can't just jump to conclusions.

Like everything there is always more to the story.

The racism charge for running around as an insurgent with an accent? come on buddy Airsoft is LARP with guns. That charge just honestly seems like a cry for attention.

ssp21 · October 22nd, 2009, 02:58

i was there on the feild when the incedent happened, but did not witness the events leading up to the assault. i have been contacted by both parties involved and both tell me they regret the situation. while both say that it was a mistake the punnishment is not equal. since both players know the error of their ways i dont think a life long ban is required, but i do feel both should suffer the same punnishment. that said i do think that the guys running Hardcorps are in a difficult spot and that this kind of incedent is very rare in airsoft(first i have seen in 6years).

Cpl T. Syndrome · October 22nd, 2009, 19:40

I for one have witnessed not only a teammate, but my brother be shot out of anger in a safe zone at point blank..This was my brother's first ever attendance to a true event..pretty much ruined our whole weekend. I was glad to see the game organizers not only ban this guy from future events for life, but called him out publicly here and let everyone know who he was..We as a group need to know who these douchebags are and make sure they stay out of this sport. These people are the ones that shed negative light on our hobbie, and we just don't need it.

Cpl T. Syndrome · October 22nd, 2009, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp21

i was there on the feild when the incedent happened, but did not witness the events leading up to the assault. i have been contacted by both parties involved and both tell me they regret the situation. while both say that it was a mistake the punnishment is not equal. since both players know the error of their ways i dont think a life long ban is required, but i do feel both should suffer the same punnishment. that said i do think that the guys running Hardcorps are in a difficult spot and that this kind of incedent is very rare in airsoft(first i have seen in 6years).

Oh it's been less than 6 years search my name or Spawn28 you'll find a good one

Drache · October 22nd, 2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Cpl T. Syndrome

Oh it's been less than 6 years search my name or Spawn28 you'll find a good one

If you read carefully he said the first HE has seen in 6 years of playing.

Coma · October 22nd, 2009, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpl T. Syndrome

I for one have witnessed not only a teammate, but my brother be shot out of anger in a safe zone at point blank..This was my brother's first ever attendance to a true event..pretty much ruined our whole weekend. I was glad to see the game organizers not only ban this guy from future events for life, but called him out publicly here and let everyone know who he was..We as a group need to know who these douchebags are and make sure they stay out of this sport. These people are the ones that shed negative light on our hobbie, and we just don't need it.

Was that the Muskoka game? Cause if it was the dude was back playing in Toronto lickity-split aside from anyone else's lifetime bans or disciplinary action or otherwise. I even remember, because I had a game posted soon after, being messaged about said member. Having been at the game in question I'd met him and knew better already, but the fact is that without names and faces these people'll still get into games. All we have here are 'call signs' (sign-in names really). The idea of an online group regulating who comes to public games often run at paintball parks is a bit ridiculous.

ssp21 · October 23rd, 2009, 01:06

i guess what i am saying is that in the 6years i have been playing this is the first fight i have ever witnessed. both involved players have appologise and both screwed up. i think both parties should be punnished equaly, but a life long ban is uneeded.

kalnaren · October 23rd, 2009, 20:01

Fuck it, I'd ban. You shoot someone in the safe zone, you're jeapordizing other people's safety. That kind of behaviour has no place in airsoft. It's not like the "Don't shoot people in the safe zone where no-one has googles and you're suppose to have the barrel covered and mag out" is a grey, hard to understand rule.

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October 21st, 2009, 21:35	#16
Jimski Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal	what? you weren't given the list? __________________

October 22nd, 2009, 00:21	#21
Scarecrow A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tottenham	I agree - if either party pursued it, its liable to go that way in a court of law. That was my point. The other point is where an AEG can be interpreted as a weapon and an assault occurs - you don't need charges, what was described here was plainly assault in two forms. I'm not suggesting someone pursue it, however, the fact remains it occurred and those are the potential legal consequences as a result of spectacularly bad judgment and loss of emotional control - over what? A game. Pathetic really. __________________ LIKE us on Facebook!!

October 22nd, 2009, 01:41	#23
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	Dealing with the matter in a civilized manner outside of the court room would be the most logical answer if either of them cared about the sport. I know for a fact that one of them is trying to pursue it in this manner. The last thing this sport needs is this kind of bad publicity. Some times we loose our heads, ever think that the reason the person reacted like that was to "removed the threat?" There for if it ever does go to court it will be established as self defense. Getting shot in the back with people around? You can't just jump to conclusions. Like everything there is always more to the story. The racism charge for running around as an insurgent with an accent? come on buddy Airsoft is LARP with guns. That charge just honestly seems like a cry for attention. Last edited by Dart; October 22nd, 2009 at 01:43..

October 21st, 2009, 22:35	#17
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I have a list. It's short...because very few people are beyond salvage.

October 21st, 2009, 22:53	#18
wildcard Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In my man cave	Anyone who knowingly put another player in harms way by his/her actions such as discharging his AEG/GBB in a safe zone have no business playing airsoft or have anything to do with the community. this individual should be banned for life, shit happen in the field, it's only a game. To deliberately hurt someone else for a game?? come on grow the fuck up, if you can't stand being shot from up close or being mercied than I suggest you should leave and go play something else more suited to your liking. As screwed up as some of us are, we draw the line when it comes to endangering another player and no way that this should be tolerated with a simple short period suspension.

October 22nd, 2009, 02:58	#24
ssp21 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kamloops	i was there on the feild when the incedent happened, but did not witness the events leading up to the assault. i have been contacted by both parties involved and both tell me they regret the situation. while both say that it was a mistake the punnishment is not equal. since both players know the error of their ways i dont think a life long ban is required, but i do feel both should suffer the same punnishment. that said i do think that the guys running Hardcorps are in a difficult spot and that this kind of incedent is very rare in airsoft(first i have seen in 6years).

October 22nd, 2009, 19:40	#25
Cpl T. Syndrome Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ottawa,On	I for one have witnessed not only a teammate, but my brother be shot out of anger in a safe zone at point blank..This was my brother's first ever attendance to a true event..pretty much ruined our whole weekend. I was glad to see the game organizers not only ban this guy from future events for life, but called him out publicly here and let everyone know who he was..We as a group need to know who these douchebags are and make sure they stay out of this sport. These people are the ones that shed negative light on our hobbie, and we just don't need it.

October 23rd, 2009, 01:06	#29
ssp21 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kamloops	i guess what i am saying is that in the 6years i have been playing this is the first fight i have ever witnessed. both involved players have appologise and both screwed up. i think both parties should be punnished equaly, but a life long ban is uneeded.

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