Flakers - Why not have a game feedback system?

[KoolAidMan]

they could make it so game hosts can blacklist them

[KoolAidMan]

I guessing that brian has a list in there

[Jayne Finch]

Originally Posted by Bissa

there is a hosts section already, so they can trade names of the people who flake out of a game or make the game unenjoyable.

bissa is correct. there is a group for hosts that allows hosts to trade such information.

HOWEVER everyone here has to understand that airsoft is not the only thing on some peoples minds. life happens. theres school, kids, wives, girlfriends, work etc. that will come up last minute. dont hate everyone that flakes, it happens. and yes it may be annoying, but the only time it becomes a problem is if its a constant habit. that becomes a host issue. i over book games based on the experience that a certain % will not show.

[Scarecrow]

I've thought about building a game booking and player sign up system that hosts could then take attendence at and feedback so players got show ratings. Like many of my ideas, I never really followed it up (it would cost me money, I've no programming skillz). Brian and I were talking about it again at the FTF game this weekend. Flaking is at an all time high here now. Time to do something.

If players got a show rating, you could they set player caps and your show rating could be used when you sign up. For instance anyone with anything less than a 70% show rate isn't allowed to sign up, and, players would be given slots based on their show rate. So it would be possible for a player with a 90% show rate to displace a player with a lower show rate, even up to 24 hours before a game. That would make people care about their ratings - almost like an eBay rating system.

If someone has the programming skills, I'd be happy to design the concept and oversee its construction - I do software project management for a living.

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Jayne Finch

bissa is correct. there is a group for hosts that allows hosts to trade such information.

HOWEVER everyone here has to understand that airsoft is not the only thing on some peoples minds. life happens. theres school, kids, wives, girlfriends, work etc. that will come up last minute. dont hate everyone that flakes, it happens. and yes it may be annoying, but the only time it becomes a problem is if its a constant habit. that becomes a host issue. i over book games based on the experience that a certain % will not show.

Agreed but the issue is with people not showing up and don't even bother telling the game hosts. Then you have tardies that show up 2-3 hours late because they don't want to wake up to make it on time.

The big issue is we aren't talking about 2-3 people per game, but a good %. We've had games where we couldn't really start because of lack of people (that would wierdly show up 2-3 hours later).

Personally during the summer i don't care but during winter... urgh.

[Able1]

Communication is Key, Id love it if people let me know, because ive had games were 3-4 will say they are coming but they dont come because its raining or theres mud.

[KoolAidMan]

outdoor is one thing where weather can turn someone off but. indoor theres no reason to say no because of the weather realy

[Able1]

Originally Posted by KoolAidMan

outdoor is one thing where weather can turn someone off but. indoor theres no reason to say no because of the weather realy

I agree but if it says "Rain Or Shine" and people still say in and dont come if it rains, ruins the turn out there were times were if i knew that little people were gonan turn out I would have not had the game at all.

[Duckman]

Originally Posted by Jayne Finch

bissa is correct. there is a group for hosts that allows hosts to trade such information.

HOWEVER everyone here has to understand that airsoft is not the only thing on some peoples minds. life happens. theres school, kids, wives, girlfriends, work etc. that will come up last minute. dont hate everyone that flakes, it happens. and yes it may be annoying, but the only time it becomes a problem is if its a constant habit. that becomes a host issue. i over book games based on the experience that a certain % will not show.

no one is debating the LEGITIMATE issues of life that pop up last second. using the zombie game as an example, what are the odds of 1/2 the people signed up having a legitimate, non-displaceable emergencies pop up on a day where the weather man is less than accurate and it's been wet and cool for the week leading up to said day.

if you sign up for a game that's posted up loooooooooooong in advance than book the time off with work! request the time off with the domestics!!! know the weather conditions for the game being booked for that time of year and prepare. God forbid that you remember you signed up for a capped game before going and double booking yourself. MAN UP AND SHOW UP or just dont bother signing up if you have any intenetion of being an illegitimate no show. at the very least say something.

so if you ask me than i'm with scarecrow on the openly visible rating. if for nothing else to publicly humiliate those inconsiderate wussy pansies out there. that attitude has seriously hurt the gaming this year people. grow up. if you're old enough to sign up for a game than stop behaving like a little baby or a prncess and live up to your end of that agreement...and if something unavoidable emergency does pop up JUST before game time than you could post just that so people know.

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Duckman

no one is debating the LEGITIMATE issues of life that pop up last second. using the zombie game as an example, what are the odds of 1/2 the people signed up having a legitimate, non-displaceable emergencies pop up on a day where the weather man is less than accurate and it's been wet and cool for the week leading up to said day.

if you sign up for a game that's posted up loooooooooooong in advance than book the time off with work! request the time off with the domestics!!! know the weather conditions for the game being booked for that time of year and prepare. God forbid that you remember you signed up for a capped game before going and double booking yourself. MAN UP AND SHOW UP or just dont bother signing up if you have any intenetion of being an illegitimate no show. at the very least say something.

so if you ask me than i'm with scarecrow on the openly visible rating. if for nothing else to publicly humiliate those inconsiderate wussy pansies out there. that attitude has seriously hurt the gaming this year people. grow up. if you're old enough to sign up for a game than stop behaving like a little baby or a prncess and live up to your end of that agreement...and if something unavoidable emergency does pop up JUST before game time than you could post just that so people know.

100% agree.

It's only polite to let the people/game host know that you can't make it. If you sign up, come and come on time so people don't have to wait because its 'hard' to wake up at 6am or 7am. Thats ok, don't fucking sign up. Or heck, omg... let people know you will come but more toward x hours.

This doesn't concern newbies only, if anything new players tend to show up on time since they are all excited and stuff.

[Renegade)]

As hosts, we dont forget who flaked and said nothing, whos a dickhead at the field, ect... Next time I see them at a game, I talk to them about it, ask them hey remember that game I hosted last month, I didnt see you there, what happened? If they have a good reason, fine, if they dont, well I just let them know I didnt appreciate it, and I hope it doesnt happen again.. A host trader rating would be a good idea, but it would take alot more than Scarecrow and a programer, it would take virutally every player, active or not on the boards to vote on EVERY player active or not on the boards... If you let the hosts run it, could be bias, we dont remember everyone at a game. Otherwise, Im guessing everyone would start out at 100% and then each time they fuck up, it goes down a few..

[Jimski]

Originally Posted by Amos

Lol I think I hit a soft spot

[Bissa]

ok, I was kind of worried since there have been a number of games that I signed up for and then said I would not be able to attend (mostly because of school) and I was thinking that would be defined as flaking.

[Able1]

What do we do about Walk ins? I have plenty moments where people just show up. some arent even active on here. Is it a bad thing to let them play?

[Bissa]

I would say that is a good thing, as long as they are prepared to play then the more the merrier.