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Old November 4th, 2009, 04:46   #16
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A couple drops every 6-8 mag fills, is the standard.

But get TM mags. I rarely oil them and they don't leak.
So u drop it in DIRECTLY in the propane tank?
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Old November 4th, 2009, 05:03   #17
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That's what I do, yes. I'm not sure if that's the "right" way, but it's been working well for me thus far.
What I believe happens (anyone feel free to correct me) is that the propane in the tank is in liquid form and remains as such as you fill your mag. The oil goes into the mag mixed with the propane.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 07:15   #18
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So u drop it in DIRECTLY in the propane tank?
Yes. In the neck/nozzle then screw on the adapter and fill your mag.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 11:11   #19
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A few drops should suffice. However I would suggest the AI one (simpler design, less hassle). It's not hard to unscrew the adapter and put the silicon oil in the tank valve.
didn't check those threads but I'm sure I mention in one or two of them that I use an inkjet refill syringe to put silly oil in the AI adapter. I don't unscrew the adapter anymore unless it's to change tanks. lol
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Old November 4th, 2009, 23:38   #20
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okay, let me ask you guys a question. Aesthetically, which one do you thinnk looks better:

1. 5.1 Stainless
2. 5.1 Black
3. 4.3 Stainless

Im having a bit of trouble choosing between the 3. Many have said that the 4.3 looks better and more stainless, but i dont like the front black diagonal lines on the silver frame.

Any ideas?
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Old November 4th, 2009, 23:42   #21
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i would say the 5.1 stainless =)

wut's ur primary use for the hicapa? CAPS??
i would say it's better to use 5.1 for CAPS for better accuracy over the 4.3
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Old November 4th, 2009, 23:46   #22
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i would say the 5.1 stainless =)

wut's ur primary use for the hicapa? CAPS??
i would say it's better to use 5.1 for CAPS for better accuracy over the 4.3
Accuracy is EXTREMELY important to me.... I use my 5.1 for casual shooting, might do competition later on.

Also, whats the difference between the regular 5.1 and the 5.1 stainless? Is it just the color of the slide?
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Old November 4th, 2009, 23:59   #23
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Accuracy important, eh? Do what I did. Get a long frame, long slide and a compensator, and get a 7 inch tightbore inside. Epic.

And yes thats the only difference(AFAIK)
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Old November 5th, 2009, 00:00   #24
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Accuracy is EXTREMELY important to me.... I use my 5.1 for casual shooting, might do competition later on.

Also, whats the difference between the regular 5.1 and the 5.1 stainless? Is it just the color of the slide?
Slide colour, frame is stainless steel, silver furniture I think.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 00:46   #25
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So Boring egg said that the 5.1 stainless looks the best out of the 3 i posted at the top. What do others think? Agree with Boring egg?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:17   #26
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Dude, it's your money. Don't ask others what looks better.
The 5.1's are the same, and 4.3 because it's quicker. Longer = more velocity and accuracy.
If it's accuracy that you want, then why do you care about what looks better?

If you want accuracy, then prepare to blow hundreds.
A stock hi-capa is perfectly fine out of the box.
If parts break, you prepare to buy replacement, or upgrades.

Accuracy isn't always on the gun, it's on the person who operates it.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:26   #27
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Also, whats the difference between the regular 5.1 and the 5.1 stainless? Is it just the color of the slide?
Colour of:
  • Slide
  • Receiver
  • Slide Catch
  • Mag Catch
  • Ambi Safety Levers
  • Beavertail Grip Safety
  • Rail Adapter
  • Blowback Unit
  • Blowback Unit bolt
  • Recoil Rod Bushing
  • Loading Nozzle
  • Cylinder Bulb
  • Valve Blocker
  • Hop Up Dial

Besides the colour of those items being silver (or dark grey for the nozzle, bulb, blocker & hop up adjustment dial), everything else is exactly the same. Functionality and build are 100% the same, with no improvements over current production regular 5.1.



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Slide colour, frame is stainless steel, silver furniture I think.
Incorrect about the frame. It's most definitely not stainless steel. Not sure where you even got that information from. If this model were stainless steel, the price would be about 3 times higher... or more.


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So Boring egg said that the 5.1 stainless looks the best out of the 3 i posted at the top. What do others think? Agree with Boring egg?
I think as far as looks goes from a distance, if you like the 5.1 style, and you're using the gun for target shooting, plinking or practical shooting, then the 5.1 is your best bet, since you'll most likely end up going for some type of shiny silvery build anyways, with 2 tone metal slide, chrome parts, etc. The Stainless model gives you the silver frame and controls at a fraction of the cost of what it'd get you on the aftermarket.

The downside of this, is that if you are even remotely familiar with the standard black Hi-Capa metal parts, you'll notice on closer inspection that the silver finish used on the 5.1 Stainless is sub-par, and quite pitiful compared to the very nice chrome finish on the 4.3 Dual Stainless components. Even compared to the standard black coloured parts, it just looks... poor. IMHO, the finish of the 5.1 Stainless is quite disappointing. I made a big pouty lip the first time I took mine out of the box and molested it.

If you're okay with that, and don't mind seeing weird moulding lines, paint flaws, surface imperfections and such issues, then you wouldn't have much to complain about the 5.1 Stainless.

Anyways, if you want, you're welcome to drop by my place some time to see the entire Marui Hi-Capa lineup... side-by-side. ... and even beside high end custom built pieces using quality materials (like real stainless steel.)

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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:42   #28
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Colour of:
  • Slide
  • Receiver
  • Slide Catch
  • Mag Catch
  • Ambi Safety Levers
  • Beavertail Grip Safety
  • Rail Adapter
  • Blowback Unit
  • Blowback Unit bolt
  • Recoil Rod Bushing
  • Loading Nozzle
  • Cylinder Bulb
  • Valve Blocker
  • Hop Up Dial

Besides the colour of those items being silver (or dark grey for the nozzle, bulb, blocker & hop up adjustment dial), everything else is exactly the same. Functionality and build are 100% the same, with no improvements over current production regular 5.1.





Incorrect about the frame. It's most definitely not stainless steel. Not sure where you even got that information from. If this model were stainless steel, the price would be about 3 times higher... or more.




I think as far as looks goes from a distance, if you like the 5.1 style, and you're using the gun for target shooting, plinking or practical shooting, then the 5.1 is your best bet, since you'll most likely end up going for some type of shiny silvery build anyways, with 2 tone metal slide, chrome parts, etc. The Stainless model gives you the silver frame and controls at a fraction of the cost of what it'd get you on the aftermarket.

The downside of this, is that if you are even remotely familiar with the standard black Hi-Capa metal parts, you'll notice on closer inspection that the silver finish used on the 5.1 Stainless is sub-par, and quite pitiful compared to the very nice chrome finish on the 4.3 Dual Stainless components. Even compared to the standard black coloured parts, it just looks... poor. IMHO, the finish of the 5.1 Stainless is quite disappointing. I made a big pouty lip the first time I took mine out of the box and molested it.

If you're okay with that, and don't mind seeing weird moulding lines, paint flaws, surface imperfections and such issues, then you wouldn't have much to complain about the 5.1 Stainless.

Anyways, if you want, you're welcome to drop by my place some time to see the entire Marui Hi-Capa lineup... side-by-side. ... and even beside high end custom built pieces using quality materials (like real stainless steel.)
Hey Brian! Thansk for your reply. Im still reading your long msg u sent me and doing research and thinking. Do you think I can come over and take a look at your hi capas tomorrow and also learn a thing or two about them from you?

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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:50   #29
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Hey Brian! Thansk for your reply. Im still reading your long msg u sent me and doing research and thinking. Do you think I can come over and take a look at your hi capas tomorrow and also learn a thing or two about them from you?
See PM.

The only one I don't have available right now, is the 4.3 Dual Stainless, but the controls on the Xtreme are almost the same. I have an original 4.3 Dual Stainless beavertail safety as well (slightly different shape from all the other Hi-Capas), but you'll be able to an idea of the finish differences with these examples.

In short: the 5.1 Stainless uses more of a replicated satin/matte silver look, whereas, the 4.3 Dual Stainless & Xtreme uses more of a replicated polished/stainless silver look.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 02:18   #30
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See PM.

The only one I don't have available right now, is the 4.3 Dual Stainless, but the controls on the Xtreme are almost the same. I have an original 4.3 Dual Stainless beavertail safety as well (slightly different shape from all the other Hi-Capas), but you'll be able to an idea of the finish differences with these examples.

In short: the 5.1 Stainless uses more of a replicated satin/matte silver look, whereas, the 4.3 Dual Stainless & Xtreme uses more of a replicated polished/stainless silver look.
Thanks for the info Brian. I guess I really need to see it to make a decision. BTW, i wrote down a list of questions on a piece of paper just now. Would it be cool if i ask u some of those questions when i get there??
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