WE AK-74U - was good, now bad

Strelok · December 8th, 2011, 12:09

These things just get more and more appealing.

What is the possibility of swapping out the rear sight block with a Dboys or real-steel one?

Latvian291 · December 9th, 2011, 07:12

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Originally Posted by Strelok

These things just get more and more appealing.

What is the possibility of swapping out the rear sight block with a Dboys or real-steel one?

There's no apparent reason why you couldn't given enough time and patience... and it would be better than the possibility of replacing the gas block. The dimensions can be ever so slightly different. If you have metal working skills and lots of time, I'm sure you could make it work. You have to remember that since the gas piston moves through the rifle you will have to ensure proper alignment and smooth operation - not like if it was an AEG and the whole mechanism was contained in a gearbox.

As for the gas block, the front retainer for the upper hand guard is actually cast as part of the gas block for some unknown reason. This means you can't field strip it, or easily replace it with a Dboys wood handguard. I tried and I cut off the metal bits on the dboys handguard and the measurements are ever so slightly off. It fits but looks bad.

Brian McIlmoyle · December 9th, 2011, 10:42

Hanguard Swap... on this thing would be a PITA due to how they put it together

the front end does not take down like a real AK AT ALL ... Front sight assembly,Gas block and fore-barrel extension are cast as 1 piece and must be removed to take off the handguards. I expect that any replacing handguard would need substantial modification to fit.

TPM001 · December 9th, 2011, 16:36

Hopefully RA-Tech follows thru with their wood handguard. I guess if it's custom made specifically for this particular AK, the fit should be perfect without the need to mod.

ViR · December 9th, 2011, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Latvian291

......This means you can't field strip it, or easily replace it with a Dboys wood handguard. I tried and I cut off the metal bits on the dboys handguard and the measurements are ever so slightly off. It fits but looks bad.

I've tried my CYMA wood handguards, same thing. I can make them fit, but it looks like shit...

Coresair · December 10th, 2011, 12:04

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Originally Posted by TPM001

Hopefully RA-Tech follows thru with their wood handguard. I guess if it's custom made specifically for this particular AK, the fit should be perfect without the need to mod.

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but that wood grip is meh.

Latvian291 · December 11th, 2011, 08:01

WTF the wood is the wrong shape (has no indents up top where the upper and lower hg meet) and I DEFY YOU to find a real AK-74U with a wood pistol grip. They had plum polymer or "bakelite."

AngelusNex · December 11th, 2011, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Latvian291

WTF the wood is the wrong shape (has no indents up top where the upper and lower hg meet) and I DEFY YOU to find a real AK-74U with a wood pistol grip. They had plum polymer or "bakelite."

their pistol grips were always plastic, I don't think they ever made and 74us with wood pistol grips BUT there were wood handguards both with no holes and with (though i think the ones with were less common)

Andy n · December 13th, 2011, 02:33

For the guys that installed the trigger parts. I can't figure out how the firing pin spring does back in. I searched all over for pics but came up short if you one could help that will be wonderful.

Thanks.

TPM001 · December 13th, 2011, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Andy n

For the guys that installed the trigger parts. I can't figure out how the firing pin spring does back in. I searched all over for pics but came up short if you one could help that will be wonderful.

Thanks.

The long end of the spring goes thru the slot in the middle of the firing pin. Put it in an orientation such that the tension pushes the firing pin towards the rear of the trigger box.

Andy n · December 13th, 2011, 11:42

Thanks

Latvian291 · December 14th, 2011, 06:50

Just installed the RA Tech trigger group. WOW. These parts are made extremely well. No machining or filing to fit - everything just fits!

It was a bit tricky getting all the springs in there but it seems to have worked great.

If anyone is in need of the stock trigger group parts (to replace broken parts) let me know as mine are unused and I don't plan on keeping them.

ViR · December 23rd, 2011, 01:23

Someone should write up installation instructions for trigger and NPAS...

I cant take out stupid pins... is there a trick to it? How much force do I need like...

Latvian291 · December 24th, 2011, 08:25

Most of the pins practically fell out. Make sure you are taking out the pins in the internal trigger pack. Some of the pins on the outside receiver are fake and aren't meant to come out.

Take off the pistol grip. Take off the selector. Then there is ONE pin that will come out to take out the trigger group.

TPM001 · December 24th, 2011, 13:27

The pins that are supposed to come out will come out easily with little force. Just a quick tap with the hammer and punch. Like what Latvian said, most of the pins you see are fake.

I'll see about putting up an instructional guide for the various upgrades, now that I'm on holidays from work. I should have them up in a few days.

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December 9th, 2011, 10:42	#78
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	Hanguard Swap... on this thing would be a PITA due to how they put it together the front end does not take down like a real AK AT ALL ... Front sight assembly,Gas block and fore-barrel extension are cast as 1 piece and must be removed to take off the handguards. I expect that any replacing handguard would need substantial modification to fit. __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

December 11th, 2011, 08:01	#82
Latvian291 a.k.a. Submachinehead Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canadia	WTF the wood is the wrong shape (has no indents up top where the upper and lower hg meet) and I DEFY YOU to find a real AK-74U with a wood pistol grip. They had plum polymer or "bakelite." __________________ у нас в рязани грибы с глазами их едят они глядят

December 13th, 2011, 02:33	#84
Andy n Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mississauga	For the guys that installed the trigger parts. I can't figure out how the firing pin spring does back in. I searched all over for pics but came up short if you one could help that will be wonderful. Thanks. __________________ Team Zulu All worked on by me which means they only work half the time

December 8th, 2011, 12:09	#76
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	These things just get more and more appealing. What is the possibility of swapping out the rear sight block with a Dboys or real-steel one?

December 9th, 2011, 16:36	#79
TPM001 Trader rating Join Date: May 2011	Hopefully RA-Tech follows thru with their wood handguard. I guess if it's custom made specifically for this particular AK, the fit should be perfect without the need to mod.

December 13th, 2011, 11:42	#86
Andy n Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mississauga	Thanks __________________ Team Zulu All worked on by me which means they only work half the time

December 14th, 2011, 06:50	#87
Latvian291 a.k.a. Submachinehead Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canadia	Just installed the RA Tech trigger group. WOW. These parts are made extremely well. No machining or filing to fit - everything just fits! It was a bit tricky getting all the springs in there but it seems to have worked great. If anyone is in need of the stock trigger group parts (to replace broken parts) let me know as mine are unused and I don't plan on keeping them. __________________ у нас в рязани грибы с глазами их едят они глядят

December 23rd, 2011, 01:23	#88
ViR Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Milton	Someone should write up installation instructions for trigger and NPAS... I cant take out stupid pins... is there a trick to it? How much force do I need like... Last edited by ViR; December 23rd, 2011 at 16:48..

December 24th, 2011, 08:25	#89
Latvian291 a.k.a. Submachinehead Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canadia	Most of the pins practically fell out. Make sure you are taking out the pins in the internal trigger pack. Some of the pins on the outside receiver are fake and aren't meant to come out. Take off the pistol grip. Take off the selector. Then there is ONE pin that will come out to take out the trigger group. __________________ у нас в рязани грибы с глазами их едят они глядят

December 24th, 2011, 13:27	#90
TPM001 Trader rating Join Date: May 2011	The pins that are supposed to come out will come out easily with little force. Just a quick tap with the hammer and punch. Like what Latvian said, most of the pins you see are fake. I'll see about putting up an instructional guide for the various upgrades, now that I'm on holidays from work. I should have them up in a few days.

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