Airsoft Canada
https://blackblitzairsoft.myshopify.com/

Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Upgrades & Modifications
Home Forums Register Gallery FAQ Calendar
Retailers Community News/Info International Retailers IRC Today's Posts

Cleaning motor in water

:

Upgrades & Modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 19th, 2012, 22:59   #1
SuperCriollo
 
SuperCriollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kitchener, ON
Cleaning motor in water

Well watch the video, anyone has tried it. Any thought?

Make Your Electric RC/Airsoft Motors Run Faster - YouTube
__________________

SuperCriollo
SuperCriollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 19th, 2012, 23:09   #2
Spike
Privateer Airsoft
 
Spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Beaverbank, NS
I had no idea you could do this... I'm gonna try it in my Stoner's motor since it's slowing down on me.


__________________
I change primaries like other people change socks.
Spike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 19th, 2012, 23:34   #3
theshaneler
 
theshaneler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Taber, AB


i wish i had an aeg motor to try this out on
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by White_knight View Post
Wildcard his gun is better than all of yours, he has magpul stuff on it, all the magpuls you can dream of. He has all of them. On his gun. I wish I had magpuls
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curo View Post
Look at all the fucks no one gives Miles, look at them. There is a lot of fucks not being given.
theshaneler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 19th, 2012, 23:50   #4
Cliffradical
butthurt for not having a user title
 
Cliffradical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
I'll be damned.
What does a person do to make sure that no moisture or corrosion are left behind? Blow all the water out with contact cleaner then let the motor dry?
Any need for lubrication after this?
Cliffradical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 19th, 2012, 23:53   #5
GBBR
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto
Send a message via MSN to GBBR Send a message via Skype™ to GBBR
this method has actaully been around for quite some time.

I did it to this super old TM mp5 i bought, I ran it in distilled water, the water was black when i pulled it out.
from 8 to 15 rps
*sorry I forgot to mention that this is not for brushless motors* from edit

Last edited by GBBR; November 19th, 2012 at 23:57..
GBBR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 19th, 2012, 23:57   #6
Qlong
Division
 
Qlong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Scarborough, Ontario
He suggested to do that until the lipo battery dies, and that "cloudy" stuff is just aerated water...

Not much merit to this video.
__________________

Weee!
Qlong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 00:00   #7
Cliffradical
butthurt for not having a user title
 
Cliffradical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
Yeah, I'm gonna do some poking around before I go ahead and buy this.
Cliffradical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 00:09   #8
MaciekA
 
MaciekA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
This method is mentioned and recommended on other forums all the time but there seems to be no clear consensus on whether it does much. I'm personally not convinced that water can do the job, it certainly can't in the case of the equivalent trouble spot on trigger contacts, where carbon (or otherwise) buildup can only be properly cleaned with direct scrubbing.
__________________
"Mah check"

Now you know

MaciekA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 00:23   #9
SlowEddy
 
SlowEddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: M.Sauga
back in the day of brushed r/c car motors, people used this water method to break in their motors (work in the motor brushes to match the curvature of the motor armature contacts)

if you want to clean your motor your better of using r/c nitro cleaner / motor cleaner to clean your motor. when you spray that stuff in a motor the stuff that comes out of it is nasty black crap.... not foggy white water.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUSS8&P=7

other ways of improving motor performance of old well used motors include re-cutting the armature com, and swapping out the motor brushes.
which is typical in the world of brushed r/c cars, but not so much for air-soft.

the performance gains are easily noticeable in cars, i don't think its that big of a deal in air soft, unless your motor is realy realy worn out.
__________________
<a href=http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=28471 target=_blank>http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=28471</a>
SlowEddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 00:52   #10
L473ncy
 
L473ncy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 11-30-24-1W5
Could you not just put your motor in an ultrasonic bath? Would an ultrasonic machine be more effective? Either that or just rewinding your motor.
__________________
ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew
READY TO >> RACE
L473ncy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 02:02   #11
forge
 
forge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The Puddle
I agree with Sloweddy: back in the days of brushed RC motors, I heard of/saw this method countless times: but it had specific limits. 1) it works best on sealed can brushed motors, the softer material commonly used in the brushes of rebuildable motors absorb water. 2) you use a fraction of the recommended voltage for the break-in. 3) you COMPLETELY dry and lube the motor afterwards (IE heat gun, alcohol, etc.). 4) you cannot use the water method on ball bearing motors (unless you enjoy dismantling and lubing tiny bearings!).

It works as a break-in procedure under certain conditions, but I would not recommend it for cleaning. Please guys, if the brushed motor in your airsoft is that bad, just take it apart and clean it properly. There is a reason why RC shops keep ample stock of motor cleaners
forge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 08:55   #12
Spike
Privateer Airsoft
 
Spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Beaverbank, NS
I'll take an RPS reading before and after I try it... I know that the m120 motor in my M63 is starting to slow down a bit, and the field we play at is pretty sandy. it's seen 15k rounds.
__________________
I change primaries like other people change socks.
Spike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 11:26   #13
lurkingknight
"bb bukakke" KING!
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ottawa
just don't use tap water :x
lurkingknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 21:13   #14
ThunderCactus
Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture!
 
ThunderCactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by L473ncy View Post
Could you not just put your motor in an ultrasonic bath? Would an ultrasonic machine be more effective? Either that or just rewinding your motor.
[sarcasm]You know I've had an ultrasonic bath in my garage for like 3yrs, and have had nothing to put in it until I heard this [/sarcasm]
ThunderCactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 21:26   #15
HKGhost
 
HKGhost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mississauga, ON
I don't think this method does much for an AEG motor. Most AEG motor's brushes are already set for the commutator so the water only cleans and remove the carbon. It's ok with a brand new brush that doesn't have the correct groove for the comm, but other than that, it's not necessary. The RC community been doing this for many years as they need the top peek power or a new brush is installed. I've tried it and didn't see much of an improvement. Plus, if you don't dry out the motor as soon as you're done, you could damage your motor beyond repairs. I just rebuild the motor instead of doing this.
__________________
Please email me as I'm not on ASC too often.

Custom Build | Upgrades | Repairs | Maintenance
Contact: ghostgunwork@gmail.com / Private Message
HKGhost is offline   Reply With Quote
ReplyTop


Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Upgrades & Modifications

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Airsoft Canada
https://blackblitzairsoft.myshopify.com/

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.