King Arms Dragunov.

Greylocks · July 13th, 2006, 16:32

Yes, that's the thing I've been waiting for. And enormous thanks go to Randy at DEA airsoft who got it in for me.

First impression.

Visually; gorgeous. What is wood looks and feels like varnished wood. If it's not really wood, well, they got the illusion right. The cheekpiece/rest is real wood, detachable. As the gun is set in a fairly straight line, aiming with goggles will be a pain. Time to invest in something acceptable

Apart from the magazine, who'se plastic/abs matches the gun perfectly in color, the entire thing is metal. The entire gun is heavy (I'd guess around 10 pounds). There is no creak, no flex, nothing perceptible.

Cocking is easy, test firing went fine, I am not in a position to check it's range or FPS rating.
Hopup is reached under the top cover, and adjusted by an allen key. That too is untested yet.
Takedown is pretty much like a real AK variant. That means it's dirt easy; remove the dust cover, and you see the bolt and bolt spring guide.
The main spring does look like a standard AEG spring, so their claims appear to be true. I have not tried to take it that far apart yet, nor do I intend to.

The frame mounts for Russian scopes appear to be the right size, but I again dont have a scope for it (yet).

Overall, it's a stunning piece. But beware, the cost is over $1000 by the time it's in Canada.

Edit: Get a set of metric allen keys. It's a perfectly european setup, even to that level of detail.
You will also need a tamper-proof Torx screwdriver set.

Ghillie973 · July 13th, 2006, 17:09

Any chance of getting some pictures??

Also I'd be interested in some performance specs whenever you get a chance.

Greylocks · July 13th, 2006, 17:15

Pics I'll work on, never bothered to set up a way to post anything here. What you can find on UNcompany , Redwolf or WGC is pretty much far better pics than I could take.

Performance will have to wait for a suitable outdoors range where I can setup the chrony.

Please dont expect much anytime soon, my free time (and where I can do this safely) is limited. Sorry about that.

Ghillie973 · July 13th, 2006, 17:18

Hey no worries, that's why I said whenever you get a chance. I know how busy life can get.

Trader rating · July 13th, 2006, 18:02

- Full Metal Constructed Air Cocking System
- Full metal constructed metal body
- Realistic wood alike hand-guard and stock.
- Flip-up rear sight with indicator
- Precise 590mm inner barrel
- Metal constructed outer barrel
- Cheek pad
- Power at about 450FPS out of box

Built Material - Metal with ABS Handguard & Stock
Magazine Capacity - 25
Length - 1220mm
Barrel Length - 590mm
Weight - 2700g
System - Air Cocking
Package Include ( Gun, Magazine )

Greylocks · July 13th, 2006, 18:20

And that is why I concentrated on visual and personal impressions. The data is out there.

Ronald Chang · July 13th, 2006, 18:29

Hi Greylocks,

Congratulations to you for having this very rare airsoft.

Is the magazine plastic or metal ?

I got one with plastic magazine and have double-feeding problem. Any idea of how to solve such problem ?

Greylocks · July 13th, 2006, 19:52

The magazine is black abs plastic. But since I got it around 2:30 this afternoon... you'll understand that I have not done much more than shoot 5 BBs out of it at my bullet trap.

So I have no clue about the double feeding problem.

It gave me no problems during the short test?

Greylocks · July 14th, 2006, 10:18

For scopes, I know where to get something even rarer. That will be a future purchase.

(A real day/night Dragunov scope)

Russianboy, if you want to describe your exact gun, make a review of it yourself in YOUR own thread. And dont assume we know nothing. If you want to have little arguments on what is what, dont do it in my thread. It's rude.

H_U_M · July 15th, 2006, 11:05

If you want pics of the SVD, please click "ENTER" on my personal review: http://www.arrakis.es/~jose482/SVD/s...unov_intro.htm. I hope may help

Un saludo.

Greylocks · July 15th, 2006, 11:08

Really nice detailed pics, by the way. Since you have an Atoz, my comments about making separate threads stand. Some of the internal details of mine are different.

Takedown is identical.

Bender · July 15th, 2006, 13:34

Greylocks, how does this version compare to the G&P Dragunov?

Freedom Fighter · July 15th, 2006, 13:42

Crud cleaned.

Greylocks · July 16th, 2006, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preston

Greylocks, how does this version compare to the G&P Dragunov?

If I had a G&P, I could compare. I dont. So from what I can read the G&P is gas powered. The KA is spring.
I chose the KA because it is spring powered, and the spring can be changed in moments with the right screwdrivers for a much stronger spring.

PS, FF, thank you muchly.

Greylocks · July 23rd, 2006, 22:59

Okay, I finally managed to find a spot to test it. Just in case you wonder how hard this can be, my entire municipality is now HUGE and it is illegal to even shoot a BB gun on it's territory.

Foolish me, I forgot my Chrony at home, but from having shot many powerful Airsoft guns, I'll take a wild informed guess.

Ammo available was .20 and .25

Hopup, and initial range tests, was done with .20

Range; well over 150 feet. BB's were easily reaching 200 feet, but at that point the accuracy was poor. The flight was on par with other upgraded guns I own, right out of the box. Hopup adjustment, apart from requiring an Allen key, was easy. Only requiring the removal of the top action cover (takes less than one second), pulling back the bolt a bit, and there is the screw. A convenient arrow indicates the direction to turn the screw.

Using .25 would simply require a tad more hopup, range was the same, trajectory was the same. It seems to be a very tolerant gun for different ammo weights. I will eventually try heavyer ammo when I find some.

There were zero malfunctions during the tests. The gun is quiet, cocking the action is a bit of a reach if you are small (I am), but is not hard to do at all. It is louder to do that than with other bolt guns I tried, but not by much.

The safety is simple and solid. I estimate the speed to be at least 400fps if I compare it to my AK47. If I ever get my brain in gear, a real speed test will be done.
If I locate where the heck I went and hid my monster Systema spring (I think it was an M150), I'll give it a test. Same for a few other springs I have floating around. However, when something works perfectly, I'm not tempted to "fix" it.

Please note that a complete takedown of this gun requires Torx Safety screwdriver bits.

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July 13th, 2006, 16:32	#1
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	King Arms Dragunov. Yes, that's the thing I've been waiting for. And enormous thanks go to Randy at DEA airsoft who got it in for me. First impression. Visually; gorgeous. What is wood looks and feels like varnished wood. If it's not really wood, well, they got the illusion right. The cheekpiece/rest is real wood, detachable. As the gun is set in a fairly straight line, aiming with goggles will be a pain. Time to invest in something acceptable Apart from the magazine, who'se plastic/abs matches the gun perfectly in color, the entire thing is metal. The entire gun is heavy (I'd guess around 10 pounds). There is no creak, no flex, nothing perceptible. Cocking is easy, test firing went fine, I am not in a position to check it's range or FPS rating. Hopup is reached under the top cover, and adjusted by an allen key. That too is untested yet. Takedown is pretty much like a real AK variant. That means it's dirt easy; remove the dust cover, and you see the bolt and bolt spring guide. The main spring does look like a standard AEG spring, so their claims appear to be true. I have not tried to take it that far apart yet, nor do I intend to. The frame mounts for Russian scopes appear to be the right size, but I again dont have a scope for it (yet). Overall, it's a stunning piece. But beware, the cost is over $1000 by the time it's in Canada. Edit: Get a set of metric allen keys. It's a perfectly european setup, even to that level of detail. You will also need a tamper-proof Torx screwdriver set.

July 13th, 2006, 17:09	#2
Ghillie973 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Petawawa	Any chance of getting some pictures?? Also I'd be interested in some performance specs whenever you get a chance. __________________ Age Rep for Petawawa Area

July 13th, 2006, 17:18	#4
Ghillie973 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Petawawa	Hey no worries, that's why I said whenever you get a chance. I know how busy life can get. __________________ Age Rep for Petawawa Area

July 13th, 2006, 17:15	#3
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Pics I'll work on, never bothered to set up a way to post anything here. What you can find on UNcompany , Redwolf or WGC is pretty much far better pics than I could take. Performance will have to wait for a suitable outdoors range where I can setup the chrony. Please dont expect much anytime soon, my free time (and where I can do this safely) is limited. Sorry about that.

July 13th, 2006, 18:02	#5
Droc Guest Trader rating	- Full Metal Constructed Air Cocking System - Full metal constructed metal body - Realistic wood alike hand-guard and stock. - Flip-up rear sight with indicator - Precise 590mm inner barrel - Metal constructed outer barrel - Cheek pad - Power at about 450FPS out of box Built Material - Metal with ABS Handguard & Stock Magazine Capacity - 25 Length - 1220mm Barrel Length - 590mm Weight - 2700g System - Air Cocking Package Include ( Gun, Magazine )

July 13th, 2006, 18:20	#6
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	And that is why I concentrated on visual and personal impressions. The data is out there.

July 13th, 2006, 18:29	#7
Ronald Chang Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto	Hi Greylocks, Congratulations to you for having this very rare airsoft. Is the magazine plastic or metal ? I got one with plastic magazine and have double-feeding problem. Any idea of how to solve such problem ?

July 13th, 2006, 19:52	#8
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	The magazine is black abs plastic. But since I got it around 2:30 this afternoon... you'll understand that I have not done much more than shoot 5 BBs out of it at my bullet trap. So I have no clue about the double feeding problem. It gave me no problems during the short test?

July 14th, 2006, 10:18	#9
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	For scopes, I know where to get something even rarer. That will be a future purchase. (A real day/night Dragunov scope) Russianboy, if you want to describe your exact gun, make a review of it yourself in YOUR own thread. And dont assume we know nothing. If you want to have little arguments on what is what, dont do it in my thread. It's rude.

July 15th, 2006, 11:05	#10
H_U_M Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spain	If you want pics of the SVD, please click "ENTER" on my personal review: http://www.arrakis.es/~jose482/SVD/s...unov_intro.htm. I hope may help Un saludo.

July 15th, 2006, 11:08	#11
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Really nice detailed pics, by the way. Since you have an Atoz, my comments about making separate threads stand. Some of the internal details of mine are different. Takedown is identical.

July 15th, 2006, 13:34	#12
Bender Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North of Toronto	Greylocks, how does this version compare to the G&P Dragunov?

July 15th, 2006, 13:42	#13
Freedom Fighter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mississauga, ON	Crud cleaned. __________________ Few individuals would view themselves as barbarous, no, instead they view themselves in a different light, a distorted reality that justifies who they are and what they have done.

July 23rd, 2006, 22:59	#15
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Okay, I finally managed to find a spot to test it. Just in case you wonder how hard this can be, my entire municipality is now HUGE and it is illegal to even shoot a BB gun on it's territory. Foolish me, I forgot my Chrony at home, but from having shot many powerful Airsoft guns, I'll take a wild informed guess. Ammo available was .20 and .25 Hopup, and initial range tests, was done with .20 Range; well over 150 feet. BB's were easily reaching 200 feet, but at that point the accuracy was poor. The flight was on par with other upgraded guns I own, right out of the box. Hopup adjustment, apart from requiring an Allen key, was easy. Only requiring the removal of the top action cover (takes less than one second), pulling back the bolt a bit, and there is the screw. A convenient arrow indicates the direction to turn the screw. Using .25 would simply require a tad more hopup, range was the same, trajectory was the same. It seems to be a very tolerant gun for different ammo weights. I will eventually try heavyer ammo when I find some. There were zero malfunctions during the tests. The gun is quiet, cocking the action is a bit of a reach if you are small (I am), but is not hard to do at all. It is louder to do that than with other bolt guns I tried, but not by much. The safety is simple and solid. I estimate the speed to be at least 400fps if I compare it to my AK47. If I ever get my brain in gear, a real speed test will be done. If I locate where the heck I went and hid my monster Systema spring (I think it was an M150), I'll give it a test. Same for a few other springs I have floating around. However, when something works perfectly, I'm not tempted to "fix" it. Please note that a complete takedown of this gun requires Torx Safety screwdriver bits.

King Arms Dragunov.

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