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Old November 17th, 2006, 00:11   #1
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Exclamation Pin wont go in because of pressure!!! FUCK!

I just got a mainspring housing from Arny (great service btw),for my newly acquired WA .45 and I was informed that the mainspring housing has a 150% hammer spring.. didn't think it would be a problem.. so I bought it anyway... here's the kicker, folks! the pin is being pressed down, and it can't make it across to the other hole due to the pressure of the spring! PLEASE HELP ME!!! It has frustrated me to no end!!!!!! feels like there's absolutely no way to get it in!

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Old November 17th, 2006, 00:17   #2
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Ok, make sure the bushing is OFF the slide. Put the recoil spring under the barrel where it should be.
Put the slide on the gun, and bring it backwards until the cutout for the slide catch lines up.
Insert pin gently until it clicks.
Bring slide back forward, put on the cap for the recoil spring guide, push it in.
Put bushing back onto the end of the barrel, twist it closed.

Look up the assembly/takedown guide for any real .45 colt pistol in case of doubt. That should work. If not, there is something wrong with the gun or with your technique.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 00:32   #3
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Ok, make sure the bushing is OFF the slide. Put the recoil spring under the barrel where it should be.
Put the slide on the gun, and bring it backwards until the cutout for the slide catch lines up.
Insert pin gently until it clicks.
Bring slide back forward, put on the cap for the recoil spring guide, push it in.
Put bushing back onto the end of the barrel, twist it closed.

Look up the assembly/takedown guide for any real .45 colt pistol in case of doubt. That should work. If not, there is something wrong with the gun or with your technique.
Greylocks, if you had read the thread properly, you'd know that I'm asking help for the pin that keeps the MAINSPRING HOUSING in...maybe I'm calling it by the wrong name, but I don't think so. It's the pin on the receiver , where the cut-out on the grips is.

The pin goes in about halfway then get's stuck on the other side ,coming out of the housing, and entering the other end of the receiver because it's being pushed diagonally by the hammer spring.

This isn't my first time around 1911's , however this IS the first time I've run into something like this..
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Old November 17th, 2006, 01:50   #4
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Alright! Here's the deal folks! the housing is NOT compatible with my 1911! .....Great. If anyone's looking for a Springfield style mag-well/mainspring housing shoot me a pm!
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Old November 17th, 2006, 08:12   #5
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Sorry for the confusion. I had not realized you had changed the entire grip frame and hammer spring.

Very few people do that, and that part on any .45 gun is a real pain to fix/change.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 13:09   #6
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Sorry for the confusion. I had not realized you had changed the entire grip frame and hammer spring.

Very few people do that, and that part on any .45 gun is a real pain to fix/change.
Tell me about it. Getting the leaf spring to get back into it's proper position is a nightmare I don't wish to experiance again. Stock will just have to do..
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Old November 17th, 2006, 16:07   #7
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I did it on my real .45 long ago, but I just dont remember what I did well enough to describe it properly.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 17:06   #8
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What puzzles the hell out of me is, how do you get the leaf spring to seat properly inbetween the sear, and trigger mechanism? Gravity kicks my ass all over the room on that one. The slightest nudge would make the sear go down, and out of place.. In my opinion, that's the biggest (if not only) problem of the 1911 design.

Oh, I got a question for you(if you can remember); When you put your leaf spring in, were you holding/pushing on the disconnector?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 17:51   #9
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1. Decock hammer
2. Assure that all trigger components lie behind (outside) the trigger loop. The hammer sear and disconnector can end up in front of the trigger if you remove the grip from the frame.
3. Place the leaf spring such that all of the fingers lay on top of the trigger components with the frame pointed downwards. You may have to lift the hammer strut and grip safety to make get the leaf spring into the frame
4. Lower the grip safety and press it into the grip to hold the leaf spring in place.
5. Press in the hammer spring housing until the bushing butts into the bottom of the hammer strut. Maintain pressure on the grip safety to retain the leaf spring.
6. Pull the hammer string into the centre of the mainspring bushing while retaining the leaf spring
7. Push in housing and frame pin.
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Old November 20th, 2006, 02:20   #10
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1. Decock hammer
2. Assure that all trigger components lie behind (outside) the trigger loop. The hammer sear and disconnector can end up in front of the trigger if you remove the grip from the frame.
3. Place the leaf spring such that all of the fingers lay on top of the trigger components with the frame pointed downwards. You may have to lift the hammer strut and grip safety to make get the leaf spring into the frame
4. Lower the grip safety and press it into the grip to hold the leaf spring in place.
5. Press in the hammer spring housing until the bushing butts into the bottom of the hammer strut. Maintain pressure on the grip safety to retain the leaf spring.
6. Pull the hammer string into the centre of the mainspring bushing while retaining the leaf spring
7. Push in housing and frame pin.
The frame pin is pinned against the bottom of the housing, thus making it exit diagonally.... it's really farked up. >_O;
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