Yet another question!

Dart · May 15th, 2009, 22:28

As those of you that know me I am just full of questions. Ok got one more

I am looking at a side arm as I got some money from my old hobbies. Anyways...

I am not a fan of the GBB style guns, I am thinking about a revolver, looking at one current its a .357 mag HFC. Gun is stock. There is also a TM .357 mag for around the same price.

my question is what do you guys think would be the better performer. I do not care that it only holds 6 shots, You only need 1 BB to call someone out and its just a back up not my main method of dispatching the other team.

Thanks for your, what I know will be, quick and inteligent responses.

Few new questions P2

The Saint · May 15th, 2009, 22:34

Please use properly descriptive thread titles from now on.

I assume in this context, your use of "mag" is actually a shorthand for "Magnum".

I'm not sure if you've seen a gas revolver in action before. If you haven't, I recommend searching through Youtube, just in case.

Not all gas revolvers hold only 6 shots. IIRC, TM holds 24 (4x6).

Finally, bear in mind that gas revolvers are significantly inferior to GBBs in terms of both power and accuracy. They're also harder to fix, and AFAIK, less durable regardless of whether TM or HFC made it.

Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw · May 15th, 2009, 22:37

Revolvers are -not- gaming guns. Their pretty much just for show pieces and to use as a show piece. If you intend on gaming then a GBB is the way to go.

May I ask why you do not want to go the GBB route?

Crunchmeister · May 15th, 2009, 22:42

Avoid the HFC revolvers like you were a 10 year old boy and they were Michael Jackson. Seriously. They're the worse pieces of garbage ever. Not worth the money. TM make good revolvers.

As was already mentioned, they're more for showpieces and plinking than gaming. Their performance isn't that great, parts aren't readily available, and they're rather difficult to fix. Not recommended at all if you're going for a sidearm...

Dart · May 15th, 2009, 22:50

eh, everyone has a GBB for a side arm. Wanted to be a bit different.

Sorry for the bad title I will keep that in mind for the future.

Now why are GBB so Suprerior? just cause of the larger mags?

and yes sorry I ment magnum.

Donster · May 15th, 2009, 22:54

get either TM or Tanaka for a revolver. Both will serve you will. Tanaka has more experience in the revolver market and has been making them for a long time. They (Tanaka) also make a .357 as well. If you are REALLY intent on making it your primary sidearm. you can sink a lot of money into it and buy a FMU upgrade kit through a retailer later on.

The Saint · May 15th, 2009, 22:55

Well, the fact that revolvers have all the cosmetic moving parts (cylinder that swings out, hammer) results in gas system designs that are significantly more complicated and less beefy than GBBs. And yes, GBBs have greater gas capacity as well.

I certainly understand the desire to field something different. You just have to ask yourself if it's worth giving up a good chunk of functionality in return.

Dart · May 15th, 2009, 23:05

So are all HFC side arms bad or just there revolvers?

I got about $250 to spend right now. its a side arm so it really only needs one mag. there are a few in the classifides that I have my eye on.

What should I look for/stay away from when looking at GBB or revolvers?

Is KJW any good *I think thats the name*

AngelusNex · May 15th, 2009, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart

eh, everyone has a GBB for a side arm. Wanted to be a bit different.

Sorry for the bad title I will keep that in mind for the future.

Now why are GBB so Suprerior? just cause of the larger mags?

and yes sorry I ment magnum.

Get a sawed off break barrel shotgun for a side arm.

HFC BAD, KJW Good. A friend of mine has had 3 hfc's 2 gbb, 1 revolver, fall apart on him before he could even game them. (springs loose springyness really fast)

The Saint · May 15th, 2009, 23:09

I'd say stay away from revolvers, period. Avoid them until you have all the gaming guns you need, then worry about them.

HFC is hit or miss, mostly because of poor QC and workmanship.

KSC (also available as KWA) make some of the most widely fielded, gameable pistols.

Personally, for a first pistol, I recommend going with the KISS principle and getting some sort of TM Hi-Capa (or clone).

Crunchmeister · May 15th, 2009, 23:13

HFC are a low end budget company. You can't really expect much out of any of their guns. Many tend to be problematic. But they do have some models that are better than others. Their M11 machine pistol GBB is actually quite good, as is their Mauser Broomhandle. Their Glock seems to be not bad either, plus it's TM compatible, so parts are readily available. But I'd just avoid them over something better.

And yes, KSC make excellent guns all around. My KSC Glock 17 is the most badass pistol I've shot to date. Anyone who's shot it or been on the receiving end knows it can outrange some AEGs on the field. It's a crazy accurate gun with excellent range, and all stock internally except for a tightbore barrel.

Dart · May 15th, 2009, 23:23

now I am seeing alot of 1911's and glocks. Is there a certain clock model that tends to shine?

I would love a hicapa but they are out of my price range. I got $250 in my paypal and would rather put it into airsoft instead of transfering it to my bank account. lol

The Saint · May 15th, 2009, 23:26

The KJW Hi-Capas with the transparent grip should be within your budget.

Dart · May 15th, 2009, 23:30

new or used? don't think I have come across that yet on the classifides. or maybe I have lol was not really looking for hicapas.

What makes them so good? What about WE hicapas?

The Saint · May 15th, 2009, 23:37

There are a couple reviews in the Review section.

Check 007 (if you're out West) or Mach1 or Velocity Arms (if you're out East).

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May 15th, 2009, 22:28	#1
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	Yet another question! As those of you that know me I am just full of questions. Ok got one more I am looking at a side arm as I got some money from my old hobbies. Anyways... I am not a fan of the GBB style guns, I am thinking about a revolver, looking at one current its a .357 mag HFC. Gun is stock. There is also a TM .357 mag for around the same price. my question is what do you guys think would be the better performer. I do not care that it only holds 6 shots, You only need 1 BB to call someone out and its just a back up not my main method of dispatching the other team. Thanks for your, what I know will be, quick and inteligent responses. Few new questions P2 Last edited by Dart; May 16th, 2009 at 20:53..

May 15th, 2009, 22:34	#2
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	Please use properly descriptive thread titles from now on. I assume in this context, your use of "mag" is actually a shorthand for "Magnum". I'm not sure if you've seen a gas revolver in action before. If you haven't, I recommend searching through Youtube, just in case. Not all gas revolvers hold only 6 shots. IIRC, TM holds 24 (4x6). Finally, bear in mind that gas revolvers are significantly inferior to GBBs in terms of both power and accuracy. They're also harder to fix, and AFAIK, less durable regardless of whether TM or HFC made it. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

May 15th, 2009, 22:42	#4
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Avoid the HFC revolvers like you were a 10 year old boy and they were Michael Jackson. Seriously. They're the worse pieces of garbage ever. Not worth the money. TM make good revolvers. As was already mentioned, they're more for showpieces and plinking than gaming. Their performance isn't that great, parts aren't readily available, and they're rather difficult to fix. Not recommended at all if you're going for a sidearm... __________________

May 15th, 2009, 22:50	#5
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	eh, everyone has a GBB for a side arm. Wanted to be a bit different. Sorry for the bad title I will keep that in mind for the future. Now why are GBB so Suprerior? just cause of the larger mags? and yes sorry I ment magnum.

May 15th, 2009, 22:54	#6
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	get either TM or Tanaka for a revolver. Both will serve you will. Tanaka has more experience in the revolver market and has been making them for a long time. They (Tanaka) also make a .357 as well. If you are REALLY intent on making it your primary sidearm. you can sink a lot of money into it and buy a FMU upgrade kit through a retailer later on.

May 15th, 2009, 22:55	#7
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	Well, the fact that revolvers have all the cosmetic moving parts (cylinder that swings out, hammer) results in gas system designs that are significantly more complicated and less beefy than GBBs. And yes, GBBs have greater gas capacity as well. I certainly understand the desire to field something different. You just have to ask yourself if it's worth giving up a good chunk of functionality in return. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

May 15th, 2009, 23:05	#8
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	So are all HFC side arms bad or just there revolvers? I got about $250 to spend right now. its a side arm so it really only needs one mag. there are a few in the classifides that I have my eye on. What should I look for/stay away from when looking at GBB or revolvers? Is KJW any good I think thats the name

May 15th, 2009, 23:09	#10
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	I'd say stay away from revolvers, period. Avoid them until you have all the gaming guns you need, then worry about them. HFC is hit or miss, mostly because of poor QC and workmanship. KSC (also available as KWA) make some of the most widely fielded, gameable pistols. Personally, for a first pistol, I recommend going with the KISS principle and getting some sort of TM Hi-Capa (or clone). __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

May 15th, 2009, 23:13	#11
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	HFC are a low end budget company. You can't really expect much out of any of their guns. Many tend to be problematic. But they do have some models that are better than others. Their M11 machine pistol GBB is actually quite good, as is their Mauser Broomhandle. Their Glock seems to be not bad either, plus it's TM compatible, so parts are readily available. But I'd just avoid them over something better. And yes, KSC make excellent guns all around. My KSC Glock 17 is the most badass pistol I've shot to date. Anyone who's shot it or been on the receiving end knows it can outrange some AEGs on the field. It's a crazy accurate gun with excellent range, and all stock internally except for a tightbore barrel. __________________

May 15th, 2009, 23:23	#12
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	now I am seeing alot of 1911's and glocks. Is there a certain clock model that tends to shine? I would love a hicapa but they are out of my price range. I got $250 in my paypal and would rather put it into airsoft instead of transfering it to my bank account. lol

May 15th, 2009, 23:26	#13
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	The KJW Hi-Capas with the transparent grip should be within your budget. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

May 15th, 2009, 23:30	#14
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	new or used? don't think I have come across that yet on the classifides. or maybe I have lol was not really looking for hicapas. What makes them so good? What about WE hicapas? Last edited by Dart; May 15th, 2009 at 23:36..

May 15th, 2009, 23:37	#15
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	There are a couple reviews in the Review section. Check 007 (if you're out West) or Mach1 or Velocity Arms (if you're out East). __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

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