systema vs guarder clear: hop up

[marcwhite]

Hello ASC,

In my ICS m4 I'm currently using a modify sp110 spring and am getting around 370-390 fps and am wondering wich of the above hop up rubbers would give me the best performance.

Thanks.

[Skladfin]

oh god... not again...

I'll begin this by saying Systema or Prometheus Soft.

now just bring out the pop corn and watch me and other gun docs duke it out.

[Amos]

To be honest I'm not a fan of systema rubbers..

For the "Cheap" category of hop-up rubbers I'd suggest Guarder Clear over a systema

Edit: However.. the higher FPS will wear a guarder clear out fairly quickly.. and I don't really like the guarder black rubbers.


lol firefly medium

[marcwhite]

Originally Posted by Amos

To be honest I'm not a fan of systema rubbers..

For the "Cheap" category of hop-up rubbers I'd suggest Guarder Clear over a systema

Edit: However.. the higher FPS will wear a guarder clear out fairly quickly.. and I don't really like the guarder black rubbers.


lol firefly medium

Amos,
I was planning on bying a firefly but I decided against it because I'm usig an SCS and I hear they don't work together?

[ThunderCactus]

systema makes crap hop rubbers, get the guarder BLACK rubber.
The guarder clear is too soft to be used above 350fps

[Amos]

Originally Posted by marcwhite

Amos,
I was planning on bying a firefly but I decided against it because I'm usig an SCS and I hear they don't work together?

Nope, Firefly rubbers have built in internal nubbins that make 2 very solid contact point on the BB whereas normal rubbers have one solid bump that makes a single contact point.

With the SCS and the contact point shaved off, it contacts the BB in many more ways..

I haven't done a direct comparison of SCS vs Firefly yet... but I know the SCS will give you results and it is cheaper than the firefly

[marcwhite]

Thanks alot guys. I'm thinking promy soft with SCS?

[ThunderCactus]

I've had bad luck with prometheus rubbers too, unfinished edges

[marcwhite]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I've had bad luck with prometheus rubbers too, unfinished edges

And so you would reccomend wich rubber?

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I've had bad luck with prometheus rubbers too, unfinished edges

+1

Almost all of them had some molding scraps on the edge... need to carefully remove it before the thing is usable.

But after that, it works like a charm.

I vote Prometheus still. Purple for your use.

[marcwhite]

sorry thunder didn't see that you said guarder black...

[Donster]

promy soft (i.e.: purple i believe) plus SCS should do the trick. that is the feedback i have been getting as well. as for the promy incident, it may have just been the batch. its not like they couldn't be made usable either, just shave off the excess.

[Azathoth]

Originally Posted by Skladfin

oh god... not again...

I'll begin this by saying Systema or Prometheus Soft.

now just bring out the pop corn and watch me and other gun docs duke it out.

ASIAN SPECIAL POWERS UNITE!

Systema on the cheap end

Prometheus on the more pricey end. The Systema's wear out very quickly ESPECIALLY if you are using a SCS unit.

Some people say that the guarder clear (soft only) is alright.

IF YOU ARE USING SCS Prometheus soft or Guarder Clear (cheap). This is what is suggested on filairsoft.

I've done a direct shooting comparison between the Firefly (w prommy hard nub) and a SCS enabled Prometheus rubber. Firefly rubber is very poor in comparison.

[ThunderCactus]

GUARDER BLACK DAMNIT
It's what I use in all the AEG's I build, they're like 5$ and just as good as the prometheus and systema rubbers, they last forever and the only thing better is a firefly

[Skladfin]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

GUARDER BLACK DAMNIT
It's what I use in all the AEG's I build, they're like 5$ and just as good as the prometheus and systema rubbers, they last forever and the only thing better is a firefly

chilax man.

just curious,

do you ever wash your hop up rubbers?