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SHaKaL · June 24th, 2011, 14:46

I love the way the Npd is disconnected from the population... They are fighting for the CUPW against the rest of the population and small business owners who are losing thousands of dollars each days...

Really wish the government pass the special law today.

Anyway... that's the way i see it (might be wrong...)

coach · June 24th, 2011, 14:47

What bothers more are the NDP are playing filibuster. Nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to even do with CPC and the Union actually agreeing on a contract!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...5/?from=sec368

whisper_kill · June 24th, 2011, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

What bothers more are the NDP are playing filibuster. Nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to even do with CPC and the Union actually agreeing on a contract!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...5/?from=sec368

And they're not even being subtle about... The came right out and said they will do everything they can to delay this bill. It's bad enough small business has been struggling, now they do this... You'll probably see some more businesses drop of the map soon.

coach · June 24th, 2011, 15:09

And to think, people were complaining about the Conservatives having too much power with this current Government...

So, how many of you guys waiting for stuff in the mail voted NDP! Great job! [/sarcasm]

Scouser · June 24th, 2011, 15:13

yeah, im pretty sure a lot of ppl that voted NDP are looking at this and going......uhhhh maybe that wasnt such a good idea

Brian McIlmoyle · June 24th, 2011, 15:16

Headline:

"Jack Layton fiddles while Canadian small business' burn"

SHaKaL · June 24th, 2011, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

And to think, people were complaining about the Conservatives having too much power with this current Government...

So, how many of you guys waiting for stuff in the mail voted NDP! Great job! [/sarcasm]

I voted conservative but here in Quebec province; It seem i'm a minority...

vondnik · June 24th, 2011, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHaKaL

I voted conservative but here in Quebec province; It seem i'm a minority...

that makes at least 4....

Drayen · June 24th, 2011, 16:50

the posties could be working, but management won't let them.
they were willing to work under their old contract but CP shot that idea down in favour of locking them out to force the gov't to do something.

shame on CP for all the damage it's willing to do to this country because they feel workers should be legislated back instead of bargaining in good faith.

jordan7831 · June 24th, 2011, 16:57

like wise, shame on the union for using health and safety as an excuse for striking in the first place when the real issue was more geared towards extreemly generous wage increases in a time of economic uncertainty.

whisper_kill · June 24th, 2011, 17:07

I might be daft (actually I is), but the whole argument re: dropping new hire wages to me seems like it has little to do with the current employee base and more to do with the union being worried about getting less membership dues from new employees. Does that make any sense?

jordan7831 · June 24th, 2011, 17:26

it all depends on how union dues are collected and administered. In my workplace dues are set to a given amount a month. I cant find the CUPW collective agreement right now but it should have something about dues in there

The Mexinadian · June 24th, 2011, 23:22

How many privatized mail delivery services does Canada have? Trust me I'm effected by the strike too. Waiting on a damn refund =/

sortie39 · June 24th, 2011, 23:44

thats the way the democracy shit looks like....
this time is really ENOUGHT! I have to say.
I would rather communist dictatorship work here and jail them all and kill those not willing to commit unconditional implementation!

kalnaren · June 24th, 2011, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drayen

the posties could be working, but management won't let them.
they were willing to work under their old contract but CP shot that idea down in favour of locking them out to force the gov't to do something.

shame on CP for all the damage it's willing to do to this country because they feel workers should be legislated back instead of bargaining in good faith.

And shame on the union for demanding more money when it literally isn't there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whisper_kill

I might be daft (actually I is), but the whole argument re: dropping new hire wages to me seems like it has little to do with the current employee base and more to do with the union being worried about getting less membership dues from new employees. Does that make any sense?

Yea, that's about the way I read it to.

Decrease in membership + decrease in union dues = less union power.

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June 24th, 2011, 14:46	#136
SHaKaL Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Trois-Rivi?res	I love the way the Npd is disconnected from the population... They are fighting for the CUPW against the rest of the population and small business owners who are losing thousands of dollars each days... Really wish the government pass the special law today. Anyway... that's the way i see it (might be wrong...) __________________ HellRanger 1969-2007 LRRP FOREVER 101e 506Pir Fox Company - SHTYK NOZH

June 24th, 2011, 15:13	#140
Scouser Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Winnipeg	yeah, im pretty sure a lot of ppl that voted NDP are looking at this and going......uhhhh maybe that wasnt such a good idea __________________

June 24th, 2011, 15:16	#141
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	Headline: "Jack Layton fiddles while Canadian small business' burn" __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

June 24th, 2011, 14:47	#137
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	What bothers more are the NDP are playing filibuster. Nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to even do with CPC and the Union actually agreeing on a contract! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...5/?from=sec368

June 24th, 2011, 15:09	#139
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	And to think, people were complaining about the Conservatives having too much power with this current Government... So, how many of you guys waiting for stuff in the mail voted NDP! Great job! [/sarcasm]

June 24th, 2011, 16:50	#144
Drayen Trader rating Join Date: May 2011 Location: edmonton, ab	the posties could be working, but management won't let them. they were willing to work under their old contract but CP shot that idea down in favour of locking them out to force the gov't to do something. shame on CP for all the damage it's willing to do to this country because they feel workers should be legislated back instead of bargaining in good faith.

June 24th, 2011, 16:57	#145
jordan7831 will always be Mike Litoris in our hearts Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North York - Toronto	like wise, shame on the union for using health and safety as an excuse for striking in the first place when the real issue was more geared towards extreemly generous wage increases in a time of economic uncertainty.

June 24th, 2011, 17:07	#146
whisper_kill Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oshawa	I might be daft (actually I is), but the whole argument re: dropping new hire wages to me seems like it has little to do with the current employee base and more to do with the union being worried about getting less membership dues from new employees. Does that make any sense? __________________ -- Whisper Kill

June 24th, 2011, 17:26	#147
jordan7831 will always be Mike Litoris in our hearts Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North York - Toronto	it all depends on how union dues are collected and administered. In my workplace dues are set to a given amount a month. I cant find the CUPW collective agreement right now but it should have something about dues in there

June 24th, 2011, 23:44	#149
sortie39 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary AB	thats the way the democracy shit looks like.... this time is really ENOUGHT! I have to say. I would rather communist dictatorship work here and jail them all and kill those not willing to commit unconditional implementation!

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