ASCA - Sale of final AEG stock

[Daes]

Sir Toby did a pig shoot,

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=18337

for the pictures.

[lt_poncho]

Originally Posted by frankiet

I would be honoured if I could see the data from that. Where can I get some of that? No seriously, can somebody mail it to me!

Cst. Murry Smith - RCMP - give him a ring. He appropriated the required ballistic test data to the CFC back in 1999 that mandated future Airsoft policies.

[baraccuda]

could you post what is in stock when you find out thanks since this thread was about that

[Cortexburn]

Originally Posted by lt_poncho

Cst. Murry Smith - RCMP - give him a ring. He appropriated the required ballistic test data to the CFC back in 1999 that mandated future Airsoft policies.

If I recall correctly...they used .22g bb's for that test data.......

[lt_poncho]

Originally Posted by Cortexburn

If I recall correctly...they used .22g bb's for that test data.......

Woah, I read this too quick and saw .22 cal BB's...and I was like - good lord they tested the crossman shit...

I wasn't able to get that test result off of Peter at the time - we're you? That would make a nice souvenier...

[frankiet]

Originally Posted by Daes

Sir Toby did a pig shoot,

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=18337

for the pictures.

Unfortunately the test gun shoots way to hot. 200 m/s!!! We'd need something shooting half that.

[frankiet]

Originally Posted by lt_poncho

Cst. Murry Smith - RCMP - give him a ring. He appropriated the required ballistic test data to the CFC back in 1999 that mandated future Airsoft policies.

Been there, done that. Spoke with him at length (over an hour). If he is the horse's mouth, then the horse said 335 fps is not a replica and therefore good to go.

[spacemoose]

Originally Posted by baraccuda

could you post what is in stock when you find out thanks since this thread was about that

why not just visit the site? you'll find your answer there.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by frankiet

Oh, and back to my original question... IS THE SKY FALLING YET?!?

Well really... it fell in 1998 when replicas became prohibited devices...

The possession of replicas is certainly legal... so there is no change to our ability as owners of replicas to use them in a responsible manner.

What has really happened over the past few months is that Customs, and Law enforcement has made it pretty clear that thay don't think there is any "grey" area with respect to the classifying of Airsoft guns as replicas.

And neither should we...

What this means is that effectivly the trade in airsoft guns is gone.. we can no longer presume that the "foggy" definition of airsoft guns will protect us from Criminal Charges. This is exactly why retailers are getting out of the business....They know that the basis of their business is the sale of replica firearms to individuals .. which was in the past tolerated by the law...But seems to be much less so now....

To address the whole PAL issue and the required changes to the Firearms Act and the CCC that would be required to achieve our aim of licensing the sale of replicas to individuals...

One question... Why should they? of what value to society is allowing the licensed sale of replicas to individuals? Other than enabling this tiny community to continue to enjoy its passtime without hinderance?

Who would loose anything if this community was extinguished? and ground out of existance by the drying up of all sources of airsoft guns?.. other than us?

The current laws and restrictions serve well enough to make replicas available to those who have legitimate need in the eyes of the law. Specifically for theatrical and movie/ television production industry and for training purposes.

I simply can not see any support in lawmakers to re-jig laws to allow us to get more replica guns to play our games...

For me... what this means is I need to get a BFL

[frankiet]

Brian, I agree with your assessment that lawmakers won't change anything for our hobby. BFL? Not familiar with that, but I would assume it's "better fucking lawyer"!

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by frankiet

Brian, I agree with your assessment that lawmakers won't change anything for our hobby. BFL? Not familiar with that, but I would assume it's "better fucking lawyer"!

I assume he meant Business Firearms License?

[frankiet]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

I assume he meant Business Firearms License?

I think it would be easier to get the lawyer, but I guess you're probably right

[lt_poncho]

Originally Posted by frankiet

Been there, done that. Spoke with him at length (over an hour). If he is the horse's mouth, then the horse said 335 fps is not a replica and therefore good to go.

By all means - get that on paper and we're gold, right?

I don't recognize you but you sound familliar...

Originally Posted by KaOz

Secondly, you are very brave to start an argument esp. after many posts have been stating NOT TO DO SO over this particular issue.

So what? Because you tell people not to argue you expect people to do what you say? Welcome to teh interweb my friend, where you dont get to call the shots on what people post. If you have done all the research that you said you have, then you should have learned to expect this from ASC.

Originally Posted by KaOz

[B]Unlike you, I haven't been just talking the talk, I have been walking too... have some respect

You heard the man, lets all bow down. On your knees people. Front row, get a towel.

Originally Posted by KaOz

I have yet to see anyone of "these people" post something in regards to what is being done currently.

Why should they? Your posting like mad during business hours. Now lets say its the end of the world situation...wouldn't you think that these people have better things to do then keep you informed. All day people have said to just wait. Instead of your fearmongering, why dont you go find what info you can, prepare a list of the people in power that you know and be ready for when a plan is formulated. All I see is "OMG, we need to do something!!?!?!?!" Just chill out dude.

Originally Posted by KaOz

Think twice as much as you speak/write and you might actually have something worthwhile to

Not to be mean, because im sure after 16 hours of coffee fueled ASC it doesnt take much to set you off, but what have you done? Im reading over things and aside from a do-nothing online petition, all I see is you running around in a panic like a chicken with its head cut off. Your firing off your nukes before you open the silo door.

We appreciate your concerns and applaud your efforts, but we are all in the same boat and we are all thinking the same things.

Just relax. Have a beer, get some sleep, masturbate, have a cold shower or whatever. Just chill out.

Edit: Can you post up the list of your petition? Im curious to see it.

Good points Poncho and Brian.

[frankiet]

Originally Posted by lt_poncho

By all means - get that on paper and we're gold, right?

I don't recognize you but you sound familliar...

You have no idea how hard I've been trying to do this. This is the problem. I'm willing to take any ideas on how to get this in writing. I think this is where we can get MPs involved. Asking them to introduce legislation would be next to hopeless (not to be pessimistic), but getting help to get something in writing, that has some possibility. Any thoughts?