Airsoft / Clearsoft - Long Term Reliability Study

[Crunchmeister]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name

• KSC Glock 17

2) Date Obtained

• Dec 2007

3) Initial Cost

• $260 Cdn

4) New or Used

• New

5) Mechanical Problems

• The hopup rubber seemed to basically disintegrate after about 500 rounds. Not sure exactly what happened. It was brand new and in top shape when I first bought it. I noticed it was losing accuracy and inspected the hopup to find it in this decrepit state. Cheap fix though. The replacement hopup rubber seems a lot stiffer than the stock one. Stock hopup felt almost 'gel'-like and tore to pieces upon trying to remove it from the chamber.

6) Esthetic Problems

• None.

7) Rounds fired between failures

• Technically, it's never 'failed', since it always fired reliably, but the hopup issue affected its accuracy somewhat.

8 ) Changes to Internals and Externals

• G&P metal slide, metal outer barrel, and steel spring guide.
• stiffer recoil spring
• Madbull 6.03mm tightbore inner barrel
• filled in the trademarks with white crayon
• considering installing a high-flow valve to increase its power

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.

• I can't see myself selling this gun. It's a great pistol all around, and Glocks just look sexy as Hell.

10) Notes and Comments

I have nothing bad to say about this gun in either its stock, or upgraded form. It's been accurate and reliable, except for the minor issue with the hopup. With its upgraded barrel, I now get groupings of under 1" at 20-25 feet, whereas with the stock barrel, I was getting groupings of 1.5-2". Not sure of its muzzle velocity, but it seems to hit fairly hard, although my KJW M9 hits a lot harder. I'm thinking about installing a high-flow valve and stiffer hammer spring to try to increase its power.

UPDATE: April 20, 2008

Fielded the gun for the first time today. It chronies at about 315 fps and performed admirably, getting me a kill against an opponent with an AEG at about 50 feet. I'd highly recommend this gun.

UPDATE: Oct 5, 2008

It's been fielded every game I've played this year (4 games) and still performs flawlessly. This is gonna be my main workhorse gun for a long time.

[Gamble]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
CA G36c

2) Date Obtained
Spring of 2007

3) Initial Cost
$150 USD

4) New or Used
Refurbished

5) Mechanical Problems (Gearbox issues, hopup issues.. basically functional performance related)
Electric short between wires and fuse box.

6) Esthetic Problems (Paint damage, cracks in body, loose parts.. physical construction related)
None. Very strong body.

7) Rounds fired between failures (think how many bags of BB's used before it failed)
1000 Rounds - Electrical issues - 10,000 rounds since

8) Changes to Internals (upgrades, dates)
M110 Spring, Deepfire tightbore - Spring of 2007

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.

10) Notes and Comments
This gun has a very sturdy outside. Best body of any AEG I've owned.

[Ronan]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- Systema PTW M4A1 MAX 2008

2) Date Obtained
- December 07

3) Initial Cost
- A lot of $

4) New or Used
- New

5) Mechanical Problems
- None

6) Esthetic Problems
- None

7) Rounds fired between failures
- None

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- Cylinder flavors of M90, M110 and M150

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- I would never resale this gun!

10)Notes and Comments
- Simply perfect and amazing!

[Turd]

1) Make and Model
-- Crossman, Airmag P50 (USP .45/9mm mockup)

2) Date Purchased
-- May 2007

3) Cost
-- $100.00

4) New/Used?
-- New

5) Mechanical Problems
-- -- Fracture (then broke off) at the top of where you load bb's into the mag (and where they are fired) (August 2007)

6) Esthetic Problems
-- Fracture (then broke off) at the top of where you load bb's into the mag (and where they are fired) (August 2007)
-- Noticed small C02 leak (November 2007)
-- Screw that holds the slide in fixed postion busted through the plastic slide due to dropping it on hard surface (January 2007), the whole slide assembly came apart but was put back together on the spot without much difficulty, now the slide moves as it would on a real handgun (but serves no purpose).
--Acquired 1 small crack on the back of the slide, 1 small piece of body plastic lost and 1 long but harmless scratch on the slide. Again, all due to it being dropped on hard surface in a firefight. (January 2007)

7) Rounds Fired Between Failures
-- 200 to August 2007
-- 350 from August 2007 to November 2007
-- Rounds fired to date: 600

8) Changes to Internals & Externals
-- Expoxy applied to top of mag to fix fractured piece back in place (August 2007)
-- Painted clear body to flat black using Krylon paint (excellent finish) (August 2007)
--Cut off extended outer barrel piece and grinded off small piece of the lower metal slide guide. To make it look like a real USP .45/9mm
9) Resale Date and Value
-- N/A

10) Comments
- Overall this is an excellent handgun for the price you pay.
- If you get it and start using it PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE TOP OF THE MAG WHERE THE C02 BURSTS ARE LET OUT THE PLASTIC WILL FRACTURE, however once it is reinforced you shouldn't have to deal with it again.
- I have not yet solved the C02 leak yet as I haven't had much chance to use it, think it just needs a new O-ring due to how much I have used it
- Personally I would prefer it over a GBB (purely personal preference), because C02 is easy to get, it shoots harder, the gas lasts longer, and is far more affordable if you don't mind not having blowback action and a non metal body (I wish there was a metal C02 gun out there)

Picture

[Turd]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- Jing Gong, M4A1

2) Date Obtained
- August 2007, from Anderson and Anderson

3) Initial Cost
- $430

4) New or Used
- New

5) Mechanical Problems
- Minor wiring problem in the connectors to the battery (October 2007)

6) Esthetic Problems
- None

7) Rounds fired between failures
- 900 rounds to October 2007
- 200 rounds from October 2007 to January 2007
- Rounds fired to date: 1250 rounds

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- None

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- $320, No set date yet.

10)Notes and Comments
- Decent price
- Exceptional firepower (350-370 fps)
- Exceptional rate of fire (11 bb's/second)
- Exceptional Accuracy
- All round great!
- The wiring problem is nothing major at all, the gun still works fine, a little electrical tape would fix it fine or some adjusting to the connectors

Video

[kalnaren]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- Army Armament R85A1

2) Date Obtained
- January 2008 from 007

3) Initial Cost
- $560

4) New or Used
- New

5) Mechanical Problems
- None

6) Esthetic Problems
- None

7) Rounds fired between failures
- None - put < 500 rounds through it so far.

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- G&P Metal hopup
- Systema 6.04mm inner barrel

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- Just got it, won't be selling for a while.

10)Notes and Comments
- Very nice, heavy L85.

[Lakonian]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- SystemA Professional Training Weapon, M4 (burst fire) 2008 model.

2) Date Obtained
- Feb 4, 08.

3) Initial Cost
- $1980

4) New or Used
- Brand new, baby.

5) Mechanical Problems
- None as of yet. Haven't got around to firing it yet. Will update soon.

6) Esthetic Problems
- Carry handle was overtorqued, and thus stripped alot of paint from the picatinny rail. Not very note-worthy, but it may bother collectors.
-Delta ring spring much too strong. Can't remove handguards without almost completely disassembling the front end.

7) Rounds fired between failures
- None

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- None needed, aside from cylinder. M90.

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- Main arm. Ain't selling unless I get offered someone's (real) arm ($$ worth)..

10)Notes and Comments
- Unbelievable QC, and BQ. The gun feels better than every other AR I've ever touched (alot...).
- Mags are fucking heavy! Awesome for simulating a loaded mag.
- Quick (compared to other models pre-2008) change barrel.

Will update soon.

[BAKIMAN]

Hello I have hard time to find a good compagnie who sale airsoft i would like to know some site which sales airsoft...Thanks

[Bowers]

Originally Posted by BAKIMAN

Hello I have hard time to find a good compagnie who sale airsoft i would like to know some site which sales airsoft...Thanks

try canadian retailers at the top of the site?

[toadhound]

1) Manufacturer, Model name
-ICS M4

2)Date obtained
-spring 07

3) Initial cost
-around $700

4) New or Used
-new

5) Mechanical Problems
-sometimes will fire full auto when put on semi, flip switch back and then ok

6)Esthetic Problems
-delta ring spring is to week and sometime the foregrip will pop open during game.

7)Rounds Fired Between Failures
- so far about 18,000 rounds and no problems.

8) Changes to internals and externals
-none

9) Resale Date and Value if Applicable
-don't care

10)Notes and Comments
-It has been a good solid gun with few issues, good rate of fire and reasonably acurate(unlike my spelling)gun has not let me down yet other than the delta ring popping open leaving my battery flopping in the breeze.

[SHaKaL]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- Classic Army FN-SCAR-L

2) Date Obtained
- July 2007

3) Initial Cost
- $800

4) New or Used
- Brand new

5) Mechanical Problems
- Cylinder head leaking... weak tappet plate

6) Esthetic Problems
- None

7) Rounds fired between failures
- None, no real failure to date (fired 5000-8000 bbs)

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- Changed the cylinder head for a prometheus, changed the tappet plate (in case it broke).

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- Dont plan to sale unless i buy a Systema

10)Notes and Comments
- Nice CQB rifle
- Use m4/m16 mag...
- Heavy and sturdy
- Would buy again

[SHaKaL]

1) Manufacturer, Model Name
- Classic Army CA-25
2) Date Obtained
- September 2007

3) Initial Cost
- $800

4) New or Used
- Used

5) Mechanical Problems
- Bearing bushings is a no-no for a 400fps+ rifle

6) Esthetic Problems
- None

7) Rounds fired between failures
- about 3000

8 )Changes to Internals and Externals
- Changed the piston, bushing. Changed the front end and the stock.

9) Resale Date and Value if applicable.
- Dont plan to sale unless i buy a Systema

10)Notes and Comments
- Nice rifle
- No fu&*& low cap
- Heavy and sturdy

[WarBat]

1) Make and Model
-- 'Dboys' M16 SPR AEG (BI5281 - metal)
2) Date Purchased
-- January 2008
3) Cost
-- $425.00
4) New/Used?
-- New
5) Mechanical Problems
-- N/A
6) Esthetic Problems
-- N/A
7) Rounds Fired Between Failures
-- N/A ( 950-1000 to date)
8) Changes to Internals & Externals
-- N/A
9) Resale Date and Value
-- N/A
10) for the price, its heavy, stright shooter
it also came with bi-pod, bat&charger

[WarBat]

1) Make and Model
-- KJ Works Beretta M9 Vertec Full Metal (New Version)
2) Date Purchased
-- January 2008
3) Cost
-- $275.00
4) New/Used?
-- New
5) Mechanical Problems
-- N/A
6) Esthetic Problems
-- N/A
7) Rounds Fired Between Failures
-- N/A ( 150 to date)
8) Changes to Internals & Externals
-- N/A
9) Resale Date and Value
-- N/A
10) using propane with silicone oil. at $3.00 a tank u cant go wrong. sofar the gun is awesome

[Crunchmeister]

1. Manufacturer, Model Name

• Toyo Marui Sig P226 Rail

2. Date Obtained

• Dec 2007

3. Initial Cost

• $260 Cdn

4. New or Used

• New

5. Mechanical Problems

• The endge of the inner rail on the blowback assembly cage that engages the slide lock was battered and pretty much destroyed after 5 mags. 3 mags were fired on 134a gas, and 2 on propane. This essentially prevented the slide from locking back when the gun was empty. Seller exchanged the whole upper slide with a new one to replace the damaged one.

6. Esthetic Problems

• None.

7. Rounds fired between failures

• 5 mags fired before it failed. Technically, it still shot fine and accurately, but the slide lock completely breaking on a brand new gun was most disappointing

8. Changes to Internals and Externals

• Creation metal slide and outer barrel
• Creation piston head
• Creation recoil spring
• Guarder steel recoil spring guide
• Guarder enhanced loading nozzle
• Nineball 6.03mm tighbore inner barrel

9. Resale Date and Value if applicable.

• I can't see myself selling this gun.

10.Notes and Comments

Cosmetically, it's hard to beat Tokyo Marui guns. They're the best looking plastic guns out there. However, this is the second TM gun I own, and the second one to break shortly after receiving it. That's a 100% failiure rate for me and Tokyo Marui. I personally wouldn't buy a stock TM again because of that. I would consider buying a used, upgraded TM that's been tested and proven reliable.