KJW m4 gbb worth it?

[hattrick]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

well I just seen WA cappa mags for $100-120 or so

Maybe that was $120 for two?



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[benja]

Is the g&g umg any good? Sorry for the re-post it was the last post on the page.

[Random Fire]

My 2 cents worth...
I know 5 of us who all have the kjw GBB m4 units all stock, and the only real issue so far is the broken plastic(rubber) strap on the bolt carrier. As for mag prices I see 2x times the price not 3x, and if they do hold up like they are said to be able to do then I think it is well worth it, instead of buying 2 cheaper made mags and fixing them or replacing them every year or two. I know the gun is not the "cats meow" of guns... but time will tell if it ranks up there with some of the Pro $1k plus guns

[benja]

Originally Posted by Random Fire

My 2 cents worth...
I know 5 of us who all have the kjw GBB m4 units all stock, and the only real issue so far is the broken plastic(rubber) strap on the bolt carrier. As for mag prices I see 2x times the price not 3x, and if they do hold up like they are said to be able to do then I think it is well worth it, instead of buying 2 cheaper made mags and fixing them or replacing them every year or two. I know the gun is not the "cats meow" of guns... but time will tell if it ranks up there with some of the Pro $1k plus guns

Ahhh yes i've seen that stupid elastic... Does it still function without it?

[Amos]

Replace elastic with inner tube that's cut to size... higher ROF and better reliability

[reaper416]

I have a kjw m4 gbbr.and i got to say i have had no real major issues with it.its pretty hot right out of the box.shoots 450+.you need to buy the cradle upgrades.piston and volocity reducer.
there are 2 major draw backs.the price of the mags.approx 75.00$ each.and being a gbb system the climate.in that sense im mean temperature.they dont work to well in 5 degree celcius temp.but if you want a solid ptw i give this system a 2 thumbs up.the mags are as close to real caps as you can get.
if its in your budget.and you can get one.buy it!!

[benja]

Originally Posted by reaper416

I have a kjw m4 gbbr.and i got to say i have had no real major issues with it.its pretty hot right out of the box.shoots 450+.you need to buy the cradle upgrades.piston and volocity reducer.
there are 2 major draw backs.the price of the mags.approx 75.00$ each.and being a gbb system the climate.in that sense im mean temperature.they dont work to well in 5 degree celcius temp.but if you want a solid ptw i give this system a 2 thumbs up.the mags are as close to real caps as you can get.
if its in your budget.and you can get one.buy it!!

Ahh screw it then. The average winter temperature whete I live is -20c, so I really can't see it being practical. I think I'll go for a g&g umg or mp5.

[andrew321]

Originally Posted by Amos

Replace elastic with inner tube that's cut to size... higher ROF and better reliability

Expand on that a little Amos? I'm trying to visualize how that would go.

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by andrew321

Expand on that a little Amos? I'm trying to visualize how that would go.

cross section of a motorcycle tire inner tube about a CM wide

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by wingmantank

ask yourself. why would you want a m4 GBBR? what are the advantage of GBBR over an AEG? obviously realism is the matter. WA magnum system is the most realistic one at this time, although expensive its worthy to save your money for it. WA system ain't that bad as some people said, just make sure your got the good aftermarket parts, also these aftermarket parts are so cheap right now, most expensive thing are the WA mags. personally, WE is absolutely off the list for they are not realistic at all; KJW M4 is acceptable, but since you want realistic feeling, why don't you just save you money for a WA GBBR? If you wanna run a GBBR just because the AEG failed on you, I suggest go find a branded well-built AEG, after all, AEG is more reliable by far.

The WA design is by far the best in terms of design, however, WA guns, considering their price, blow chunks. By the time you've got the weak internals upgraded for reliability and get an RA Tech bolt with NPAS to get it to field-legal limits, you've paid as much in upgrade parts as you did for the initial gun. And you're still stuck with a weak plastic receiver that flexes as well as other random plastic externals that should be metal. It makes WA a rather poor choice IMO. While the design is good, the execution is poor.

If you want the WA design, then you have to shell out the cash for the G&P WOC (which still needs some work to be fieldable) or shell out the big bucks for an Inokatsu which is fieldable out of the box. To me, these are the only real options when you're going for a Magna-based rifle. By the time you get a WA completely upgraded to be useable, you've paid as much for it as an Inokatsu anyway, so why not just get the Ino to start with? I chose Inokatsu because of that.

I haven't tried either the KJW or WE yet, but both seem to be good guns for their price range. You give you a little in terms of realism with the action (particularly with KJW), but in terms of functionality, they both work great. I'd personally go WE because you start with a metal receiver out of the box, but either seems like a good choice.

[Thenooblord]

I dont know why people complain a bout the KJW being unrealistic, you cant SEE the rubber band unless you dissassemble the gun, and the gun is loud as hell, has really snappy recoil... and its just plain awesome

[Thenooblord]

the band in my KJW M4 just broke, first I tried a wide rubber band, worked well, the ROF was increased and it cycled properly, probably wouldn't last too long though, and it was too stretchy and cant pull the bolt far enough back to lock on an empty mag, then I found an old inner tube, and after ALOT of trimming, i managed to get it to fit, and seems to work well, for now, not sure how long it will last however

[Amos]

piece of bicycle inner tube cut down to size works fantastic

[Thenooblord]

this was a motorcycle inner tube, but w/e, RIGHT after I finished getting it working, my piston cup cracked, so time for CRADLE upgrades

[brixx]

Hi I own one of this bad boy and as far as it goes its reliable out of the box. Outer barrel has been modified and until now it perfectly working. The rubber band has broke to me once and its not a big deal to replace I been to outside game one time and I have to open my M4 twice cause it shooting to hot for an outdoor game.This is one of the pros of this gun if you have to change anything its fast and reliable I have 9 magazine with me on the game and yeah the sounds of it echos in the field.http://www.airsoftcanada.com/picture...&pictureid=749