M4 Commando by G&G any good?

[Wrath144]

When I had that gun I liked it. It should serve you well as a first blaster. In my experience, it is more compatible with upgrades and external parts than other Cansoft brands.
PS The version I had was the regular G&G full metal, before cansoft was around.

[L473ncy]

I know I can be hostile sometimes but I'm just projecting my inadequacies. That's just what it is.

I realized a long time ago that I know shit all and should curb my enthusiasm. The world shits on me all the time I just hope that eventually I can be the one that shits on the world.

While I'm on a rant, those fucking "youth development organizations" can burn in hell too. They didn't develop me into becoming one of the "adults of the future". All it was, was a circle jerk and picking favourites. Then somehow it becomes my fault for some clusterfuck that I wasn't even involved in. Then after the fact they do nothing beneficial for the world except becoming fucking artsies where they can continue circle jerking each other, making up buzzwords that mean nothing then patting themselves on the back and making obscene amounts of money.

That's where I'm coming from. ERTW (Well... I guess in my case you can replace E with Scientists or Geographers).

PS: It's socially acceptable since I'm a Geographer and it's after 8PM (where I am), which is well past the socially acceptable time to start. High functioning alcoholism FTW.

EDIT: Yeah... I'm probably not a very good role model or person to look up to. Being bitter, sarcastic, resentful and all.

[scurvythepirate]

Its weird because when i searched it, this came up,
when i clicked on my search link, a message saying nothing was found appeared.
huh.

[Cliffradical]

With regards to the hostility of the forums:

I agree with you on many points to a degree, but it might be good for you to understand where a lot of the most brutal flame-beasts are coming from.
Most are long-time Airsofters who remember the time when everything was somewhat dodgy, every gun cost nearly a grand (starting), and the absolute end of Airsoft in Canada really was one bad exposure away.

It took a loooooooot of effort and example of character to get from that era to nowadays where Cabela's sells AEGs openly and Airsoft retailers can have an actual storefront without fearing a Witch trial.
Many of these people have also seen people actively find ways to get minors guns illegally, which hurt(s) the Law's view on the sport. They have also seen legitimate businesses get shut down and have tens of thousands of dollars worth of licensing and merchandise confiscated due at least in part to the reputations set down by people importing and retailing illegally.

Even though so much has changed socially, the law has not.
Think of it like drinking:

Alcohol is a prohibited substance for the purposes of ownership, consumption, or transport until you are 18 years of age (Manitoba drinking age). You can't have any, period.
There are ways to get around this, and it may seem innocent, but from the Enforcement side of the fence it is illegal, and dumb, and woe betide the man who sold you booze.
You may not have intentions of trying to get some decent but affordable Scotch until you're 18, but there's no guarantee to me that you're not getting some advice before the weekend.
A Bar owner that throws you the hell out of his place or the liquor store Clerk that gives you the stinkeye for coming in underage isn't trying to personally spite you, nor are they being rude, given the big picture.
They just don't want their personal livelyhood to be jeopardized by your presence.
The patrons or customers who get equally upset aren't trying to attack you either, they just don't want their favorite hang-out to get shut down if the Liquor Control guys happen to be around when you drop in underage.

And they know that if you really want to drink you'll be back when you're legal anyway.

That analogy is pretty sound, but in practice is even too weak because where drinking (even underage) is a mostly socially acceptable full-blown portion of Canadian culture, Airsoft is not.

I hope this clears up some of the bitterness, but in case you're butthurt and it doesn't, the community is overwhelmingly positive and helpful in person.
Show up to some games and things will be cleared up for you.

With regards to the G&G:

They are generally considered to be decent, middle of the road Airsoft guns (the higher-end G&Gs anyway).
They aren't bad at all, run fine for skirmishing bone-stock in most cases, but have a few features or flaws which keep them from being great.
These include plastic lowers, proprietary or semi-proprietary parts, and sucky piston heads.
They can be turned into great guns, but only after you've put the money you saved when you bought the G&G (vs a 'high-end' gun) back into the G&G.
I would call them good starter guns if you can get a good deal, but you won't know what a good deal is until you get Age Verified and have access to the forums.

[dantheman]

Originally Posted by Cliffradical

With regards to the hostility of the forums:

I agree with you on many points to a degree, but it might be good for you to understand where a lot of the most brutal flame-beasts are coming from.
Most are long-time Airsofters who remember the time when everything was somewhat dodgy, every gun cost nearly a grand (starting), and the absolute end of Airsoft in Canada really was one bad exposure away.

It took a loooooooot of effort and example of character to get from that era to nowadays where Cabela's sells AEGs openly and Airsoft retailers can have an actual storefront without fearing a Witch trial.
Many of these people have also seen people actively find ways to get minors guns illegally, which hurt(s) the Law's view on the sport. They have also seen legitimate businesses get shut down and have tens of thousands of dollars worth of licensing and merchandise confiscated due at least in part to the reputations set down by people importing and retailing illegally.

Even though so much has changed socially, the law has not.
Think of it like drinking:

Alcohol is a prohibited substance for the purposes of ownership, consumption, or transport until you are 18 years of age (Manitoba drinking age). You can't have any, period.
There are ways to get around this, and it may seem innocent, but from the Enforcement side of the fence it is illegal, and dumb, and woe betide the man who sold you booze.
You may not have intentions of trying to get some decent but affordable Scotch until you're 18, but there's no guarantee to me that you're not getting some advice before the weekend.
A Bar owner that throws you the hell out of his place or the liquor store Clerk that gives you the stinkeye for coming in underage isn't trying to personally spite you, nor are they being rude, given the big picture.
They just don't want their personal livelyhood to be jeopardized by your presence.
The patrons or customers who get equally upset aren't trying to attack you either, they just don't want their favorite hang-out to get shut down if the Liquor Control guys happen to be around when you drop in underage.

And they know that if you really want to drink you'll be back when you're legal anyway.

That analogy is pretty sound, but in practice is even too weak because where drinking (even underage) is a mostly socially acceptable full-blown portion of Canadian culture, Airsoft is not.

I hope this clears up some of the bitterness, but in case you're butthurt and it doesn't, the community is overwhelmingly positive and helpful in person.
Show up to some games and things will be cleared up for you.

With regards to the G&G:

They are generally considered to be decent, middle of the road Airsoft guns (the higher-end G&Gs anyway).
They aren't bad at all, run fine for skirmishing bone-stock in most cases, but have a few features or flaws which keep them from being great.
These include plastic lowers, proprietary or semi-proprietary parts, and sucky piston heads.
They can be turned into great guns, but only after you've put the money you saved when you bought the G&G (vs a 'high-end' gun) back into the G&G.
I would call them good starter guns if you can get a good deal, but you won't know what a good deal is until you get Age Verified and have access to the forums.

Well thank you all for the positive replies after I stated my opinion there (thought it would severely back fire on me).
Cliffradical: I totally understand that the Community wants to preserve itself and wants to avoid all kinds of trouble with the law and etc. Its just frustrating when you ask some questions and you are not age verified, and the only answers you get is: Get AV'ed. Doesn't help anybody and is a waste of a post. But I understand that this "sport" or "hobby" is fragile in Canada and that all negative things involving media and laws want to be avoided, hence age limitations.
But thank you for the Info everyone, I get the main image of G&G now.

Thats all I wanted to know. Wasn't really that hard now was it?
Thanks again and cheers to a long and sunny weekend (here in BC at least hope your peepses weekend is long sunny too)
Dan the Man

[DEATH2000]

Dan, the reason they say get Age Verified is that when you are, it opens up a lot more of the forums to you, that you cant see from a normal search. Things like Restricted Age of Majority Discussion and Retailer Discussion threads wont show up in a search if your not age verified, but those threads might have the awnser you needed.

Its a proven fact that your more likley to learn and remember something if you have to learn it on your own. Thats what the people here are trying to help do. By searching for it and finding the awnser you were looking for your more likley to remember it down the road, which in turn will able you to pass that knowledge onto other people.

[JuicyFruits]

My brother got a g&g M4, he likes it a lot. I also have a g&g mp5 and I am happy with it.

If you do get one, CHANGE THE PISTON asap. My brother decided to keep it stock, after 1 year the piston head literally exploded. Pretty big mess. He bought a new one and his gun is OK now, but still, that was a massive headache.

[Seff5677]

Originally Posted by dantheman

Hello all,
Question: Is this Gun any good?
link: http://pocomilitary.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=1851


Feedback greatly appreciated.
Also, if this gun isn't any good, can somebody recommend me a decent to good gun that has top rails (for scope) and front all around rails (like the gun in above link has, sorry idk the proper term for the rails) for additional accessories?
M4, SCAR, or Bull Pup design preferred, please no super long gunzzzz. Metal Preferred but "Cansoft" style is ok.
Price range: $400 and Under preferred, but willing to go $550 and under if need be (I am trying to avoid that though)
Thanks for any help/input. Sorry for being so demanding.
G'day errbody

IF you can go upto 550, i suggest you look at all metal rifles instead of the cansoft stuff

[Kefray]

I bought a similar gun in the G&G Brand. I knew I would need a 350ish for indoor and I can still use it outdoor untill I get a hotter gun to use .28's with., which should be sooner than expected according to my stupid-high tax return lol

[Lee, T]

I have both the g&g mp5 and m4; both cansoft (tinted plastic), both underwhelming. You can do better with VFC or ICS. I personally just fell in love with gbbrs. Get those if you dare. Worth the trouble of maintainence for sure.

[Dingo]

That G&G was my first gun. Its alright, but I recently replaced it with a Magpul Masada. That G&G's stock internals are average, but it will need some upgrading for sure. Just save your money and wait till your AV'd. Ive heard theres many better, upgraded guns on there for the same price.