TM 1911 better than others?

[slink182]

Originally Posted by sortie39

I just noticed that the price of TM's 1911 is a bit higher than those other GBBs.
Is it due to the quality of the material that has improved its performance in range,accuracy or some other reasons like licensing issues..

Also I have seen lots of reviewers rate this gun definitely an A+++ gun,why is it good? you get what you pay for indeed.

Your question is a little confusing, so I'll comment based on both interpretation.

TM's 1911 higher than other GBBs by TM: It is generally higher because it's a 1911 (or 1911 variant, such as a MEU, HiCapa, Hardballer, etc.). 1911's have always been "desirable" as a pistol since it has such a long history. A version or variant is manufactured by almost all small-arms manufacturers in the world, and if a small company wanted to build pistols, they would usually build a 1911 clone. This "desirability" also translates to airsoft, which is why TM's 1911's cost more to own than the majority of their other pistols (excluding custom & specialty works). However, if you look at other GBB pistol makers, you'll notice that their 1911's & variants will generally cost more than their other pistols also, so the pricing system around 1911's isn't limited to just TM.

TM's 1911 higher than 1911 GBBs by other builders: TM's pistols are plastic, yes, but they're of very high grade plastic (high-impact ABS, if I'm not mistaken, though I'm not certain if it's reinforced with anything, like fibreglass). Other builders may sell their pistols at lower cost, and claim metal slides and such. However, the lower cost would be the result of either using lower quality materials, having looser tolerances, or both. This means weaker plastics, softer metals, sloppy fitments, less polish, etc. If you look at the builders of real steel 1911's, this is also true. For example, both Norinco & Colt both build 1911's. The Norinco is cheap (serviceable, but does require a number of upgrades and mods to become good), but the Colt is the benchmark standard.

One other thing - although TM's can be had, not many retailers in Canada carry them (unless you start looking inside the AV'ed areas), so that also affects pricing.

[sortie39]

Originally Posted by slink182

Your question is a little confusing, so I'll comment based on both interpretation.

TM's 1911 higher than other GBBs by TM: It is generally higher because it's a 1911 (or 1911 variant, such as a MEU, HiCapa, Hardballer, etc.). 1911's have always been "desirable" as a pistol since it has such a long history. A version or variant is manufactured by almost all small-arms manufacturers in the world, and if a small company wanted to build pistols, they would usually build a 1911 clone. This "desirability" also translates to airsoft, which is why TM's 1911's cost more to own than the majority of their other pistols (excluding custom & specialty works). However, if you look at other GBB pistol makers, you'll notice that their 1911's & variants will generally cost more than their other pistols also, so the pricing system around 1911's isn't limited to just TM.

TM's 1911 higher than 1911 GBBs by other builders: TM's pistols are plastic, yes, but they're of very high grade plastic (high-impact ABS, if I'm not mistaken, though I'm not certain if it's reinforced with anything, like fibreglass). Other builders may sell their pistols at lower cost, and claim metal slides and such. However, the lower cost would be the result of either using lower quality materials, having looser tolerances, or both. This means weaker plastics, softer metals, sloppy fitments, less polish, etc. If you look at the builders of real steel 1911's, this is also true. For example, both Norinco & Colt both build 1911's. The Norinco is cheap (serviceable, but does require a number of upgrades and mods to become good), but the Colt is the benchmark standard.

One other thing - although TM's can be had, not many retailers in Canada carry them (unless you start looking inside the AV'ed areas), so that also affects pricing.

well the second part sounds reasonsable.

history might be a good pricing cause for any jp companies other than TM.

when u look up the KSC's GBBs,u will find most 1911 variants are a lot cheaper than others, there should be more concerns about history value because they always have been pursuing the first-rate realism other than the performance.Nevertheless still costs much more than TM's 1911.

I have only experienced with TM's p226,its priced 14800 jp yen while the 1911a1 costs 17640 jp yen even I did the maximum upgrade on it I still would say the technical potential of upgrade is not simply worth a couple of cash.


TM's 2011 catalogue:
http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/AllLineup.pdf

[Gunk]

Originally Posted by Outcast569

Ok well the retailers on this site sell them for 405 for a TM meu plastic 1911. So he isnt far off.

Believe me I would pay that for one pending it wasnt plastic.

There's the 1911, then there's the MEU.

When I hear 1911, I think of the 1911A1 Colt Govt. Model.

This guy:



But technically this guy is also a 1911:



The A1 shouldn't cost more that $350 (if that) for a stock TM, whereas the Foliage Warrior in my second picture cost me more than $600, also a TM, but not the same internally as the A1.

But you're right, the MEU is more expensive than the stock A1, but since we're talking about the stock TM 1911 being the most kick ass blaster on the planet, the MEU is kind of relegated to second seat.

[sortie39]

no wonder i have never seen anyone ask less than 250 for a TM 1911a1 on ASC or even craigslist,even used ones..
instead get a KSC/WA 1911 within 150 is relatively more possible,so it seems that everyone knows what he is selling.