PTW - Questions

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by FlyGuy

I was actually thinking about trying Frog Lube paste. Any experience with it? I've heard nothing but great things from the RS crowd so it can't be that bad for us "less lethal" folk? Metal on metal friction is a reality in either case. All my guns need a season-end cleaning and methinks this would be a good time to remove the existing petroleum-based lube and replace it with the green stuff. I generally go very light with the lube anyway - only applying as little as needed, and for the most part, I've been using this pure silicone oil called SalShield on all the moving metal parts. Lithium grease tends to trap crud so I use it very very sparingly and only where the oil cannot be used.

I guess that Systema didn't put any lube in their new cylinders then? It does appear dry at least from the outside so I guess I will have to open it and find out. I would have hoped they at least applied some form of lube at the factory rather than requiring the user to take a new cylinder apart before ever using it simply to add lubricant? Ahh...the wonders of airsoft mechanical "engineering" (sic)!!

'Fly

Systema does use lube, the problem is it reacts with the stainless.

There is no RS lube made that should be used anywhere in any airsoft gun, ever.

Real guns don't have delicate plastic internals and o-rings crucial to create an airseal.

[FlyGuy]

Gotcha...Systema lube it is then. Interesting that Frog Lube says they are plant-based, completely non-toxic, and bio-degradable (edible in fact). Supposedly it's completely safe to use on plastics, nylon, metals, and apparently rubber as well. However, it is designed to work best with the application of heat which does make me wonder a bit given the multitude of o-ring seals and other soft/mystery metals used in our airsoft AEG/PTW/GBBR guns which don't take kindly to the application of heat. Time to place an order for some slippery Systema stuff...

'Fly

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Systema does use lube, the problem is it reacts with the stainless.

There is no RS lube made that should be used anywhere in any airsoft gun, ever.

Real guns don't have delicate plastic internals and o-rings crucial to create an airseal.