New SMG Coming From WE

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by K3vX

I was saying that because I've rarely see a Marui MP7 around here, and a lot of KWA. Glad to hear the VFC is promising, and if it fails, there is still the Marui.

Consider the release dates of the two... you're looking at 3+ year release gap, with the Marui arriving just a couple months ago, along with import-prohibited FPS of the Marui version.

It's no wonder the Marui version isn't seen as often right now.

Give it time, and more Marui's will be available on the market, at a lower price point as well (they're currently priced like KSC/KWA MP7's when they first hit the market.)

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The hole is already filled. The license has been given to VFC, who's made a dimensionally accurate MP7... and from the prototype videos I've seen, the recoil on it looks to be even stronger than the Marui version.
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...so what you sayin' is all MP7 whores will have to go and buy another MP7 with trizillion mags? Sigh... OK

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Berkut

...so what you sayin' is all MP7 whores will have to go and buy another MP7 with trizillion mags? Sigh... OK

LOL. That sounds about right. I already have a KSC MP7, with a Marui inbound... why did VFC have to make another one? And now WE?! FACK!

[m102404]

From a "works well enough" point of view...the KWA one does the trick. I haven't looked at the TM one much...but unless it has a built in power regulator I'm not sure how else I'd want to change the KWA MP7....or unless their mags magically work at -10C temps but don't get too hot in 30C weather....LOL

Is it's hopup design that much better...the KWA one is pretty cheesy.

There really isn't a whole lot of recoil associated to the HK MP7 to begin with...it's purpose designed to be low recoil. So not having more than GBB pistol recoil on the MP7 is just fine by me.

It's nice to have options though...

[ILLusion]

I've molested a TM MP7 already... it has the following pros over the KSC/KWA version that I immediately noticed:

- Industry leading Marui GBB hop up rubber & inner barrel design = Massive aftermarket compatibility, improved durability (the KWA one uses crappy plastic threads that strip), improved accuracy, and consistency that is second to none.

- Harder kicking blowback due to a more realistic full length bolt carrier group. Larger mass = bigger kick, and ROF stays solid through the entire mag. No real noticeable cooldown, even in a full auto dump.

- Controls are much more solid. Select fire detents have a very solid and reassuring *click*, when compared to the KSC/KWA version which feels mushy in comparison. There have been more than a few times where I went in to clear a room, and accidentally flicked the fire selector on my KSC to full auto accidentally.

- Build quality of the body on the Marui version is miles ahead of the KSC version. Granted, the KSC version is already nice... but until you see the Marui version, you won't know how much better it is. The finish is more matte, the build feels more solid, and the plastic overall feels more dense than the KSC version. Also, the markings on the Marui version is much more distinct and crisp, versus the KSC version.

- Three position sliding stock, versus the KSC/KWA stock which only has one position (full extension.) Granted, the user can mod the stock by cutting detents in... NavSpecWar style!


Pros of the VFC version that I have noticed over the Marui and KSC version (based only on internet videos):
- More realistic length. The KSC and Marui version is about 2cm shorter than the real thing. No idea why this decision was made by KSC, and why Marui copied this decision.

- Harder kicking blowback. The Marui version already has hard kicking blowback. The VFC one looks to be even stronger, based on video.

- Realistic bolt release lever - the KSC and Marui version releases the bolt with an upward movement, whereas a real one uses a downward movement. The VFC MP7 replicates the proper direction of bolt release




This WE release looks interesting, as it's bringing a new player to the market, but it looks like licensing restrictions will limit it's appeal. It's pretty obvious from the prototype design what gun it's trying to replicate. It's still too early to say how it performs compared to the other releases, as is the VFC, but the VFC does currently look to be further along than the WE. The VFC model also looks like it has the hardest kicking blowback of the bunch. The biggest selling point that I'll predict with the WE product, is its price point which I'm sure will bring massive bang for the buck... as long as you don't need a realistic look.

On a side note, the KSC version can be upgraded to have hard kicking blowback. I have a steel heavy weight bolt carrier group in mine, along with enhanced recoil springs. It definitely improves the overall feel of the gun.

[redneck12]

A closer look at the WE SMG
http://youtu.be/M5FLueOEYXg

[K3vX]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

- Realistic bolt release lever - the KSC and Marui version releases the bolt with an upward movement, whereas a real one uses a downward movement. The VFC MP7 replicates the proper direction of bolt release

Originally Posted by WE Airsoft

Our SMG-8 bolt release function is exactly like that on the real steel gun. It has to be push DOWM to release the locked bolt.

Looks like you were on something. Now I don't know how I feel about the WE one. Trying to make it look "unique" and or to avoid being a total copy of the MP7, while releasing a whole video about telling it function exactly like the realsteel MP7...

[BennyBoy]

They never said that! hahaha just the real gun, what gun? THE REAL GUN!
Notice how the video was uploaded on the 21 of March but the calender in the back reads 22? James is a time traveler! LEGIT!

[Deadpool]

Originally Posted by BennyBoy

They never said that! hahaha just the real gun, what gun? THE REAL GUN!
Notice how the video was uploaded on the 21 of March but the calender in the back reads 22? James is a time traveler! LEGIT!

Because Youtube gives YOU the date and time it was uploaded in YOUR timezone. Remember that they're not in Canada or the US.

[BennyBoy]

You ruined my life Deadpool, all 28 odd years all for nothing :'(

AntoxaBatoxa 1 day ago

Date on the calendar is 22nd, and video is uploaded 21st. They are living in the future!

I was correct to wear my tin foil hat /nod

[uncle_benny12]

I've been following the development of the SMG8 on Asian forums and it sounds like there may be body kits available to convert this into a proper MP7. Even if WE does not come out with it I would not be surprised if an aftermarket firm like RA-Tech develops one.

Another alternative may be for them to release an unofficial MP7 variant of the gun without WE branding similar to what they did with the license variant of their Glocks.

Disclaimer: keep in mind these are just rumors that are hinted at by WE, they have not officially confirmed any of this.

[HerrMann]

I sit going to suck like the katana?

[cookedham]

why bother to buy the SMG 8 if there are already KWA MP7 and TM MP7 and also VFC MP7 coming out soon stupid move!

[BennyBoy]

cause it's gonna be cheap?

[sammynac99]

Cheap no doubt, if they can hit the 199$ or 249$ mark a little while after release it'll look interesting.... Will I buy one... Iunno...