Back from the dead...

[BioRage]

Depends what you see your self doing.. or what you want. More realism, or more rounds/less maintenance


General consensus is get 1 AEG 1 GBBR, If you can fork the cash for the MK12 and M4 then I don't think you'd have a problem.


I only play indoors, and use GBB's as temperature won't affect me indoors. My buddies use their WE/GHK's outdoors and have no issues during milsims / night ops as well. I personally enjoy the kick, and the round cap. Having your pick your shots made me a better shooter, rather then going trigger happy on an AEG, or when your mag is empty and you bolt lock, insert a fresh mag and letting that bolt go "home" is very satisfying.


It's really personal preference, AEG triggers will never feel like GBB's (as close as you'll get to "RS") ... but AEG's don't have restrictions on 30/40 round mags, or temperature/gas affecting the mags / fps deviations.


Also if you plan on working on your own gun, I personally find GBBs to be easier to work on. AEG's are like rocket science to me.

[Donster]

Thanks!

Is there a marked difference between a GBBR and an electro recoil rifke?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Donster

Thanks!

Is there a marked difference between a GBBR and an electro recoil rifke?

Yes, but get both. I have a GHK and a TM NGRS. I can't go back to normal AEGs. The kick makes your experience so much better, and also the muscle memory on the reload is a big deal. Consistency of having to hit the bolt stop on an AR15 is really important.

[pestobanana]

I remember you from WAYYYYY back.

TM is not king. TM AEGs are pretty shitty for today's standards. VFC M4s and LCT AKs are the best AEG base platforms. G&G makes excellent entry level platforms but their higher end platforms are lacking.

BB Bastard folded a few years ago. They were recently bought out by a different set of individuals but they're selling bottom of the barrel BBs that should be avoided.

Send me a PM and I can help you get sorted out with your info on guns, parts, upgrades, etc.

[Donster]

Hey Pesto! PM sent!

[Donster]

So another question for you all on the state of airsoft in Ontario.

Cards on the table, I’m legitimately concerned about the state of legal firearm ownership in Canada.

It might very well come down to me selling my firearms and buying airsoft.

Back in the day, the majority of airsoft players were older. Paintball was relegated for the younger generations.

Is that still the case now, or if I get back into airsoft, will I be the only person from my age group (30s) playing?

[Desmodus]

Originally Posted by Donster

So another question for you all on the state of airsoft in Ontario.

Cards on the table, I’m legitimately concerned about the state of legal firearm ownership in Canada.

It might very well come down to me selling my firearms and buying airsoft.

Back in the day, the majority of airsoft players were older. Paintball was relegated for the younger generations.

Is that still the case now, or if I get back into airsoft, will I be the only person from my age group (30s) playing?

You wont be the only 30 year old playing, tons of people in your age group still play.

[Donster]

Appreciate the response!

If I do get back into airsoft I will be wanting to buy a one-stop shop.

3-4 guns out of the gate + mags and upgrades and accessories.

Ideally I’d be looking at the following:

Umarex/VFC MP7 AEG
Umarex/VFC M27 IAR
LCT AK-74

And a pistol of some sort. Are TM 1911s still good? I’d love a full metal MEU 1911

Ideally I’d like the M27 to have the ability to not shoot on an empty mag and to have to hit the bolt catch to continue shooting.

[Desmodus]

Originally Posted by Donster

Appreciate the response!

If I do get back into airsoft I will be wanting to buy a one-stop shop.

3-4 guns out of the gate + mags and upgrades and accessories.

Ideally I’d be looking at the following:

Umarex/VFC MP7 AEG
Umarex/VFC M27 IAR
LCT AK-74

And a pistol of some sort. Are TM 1911s still good? I’d love a full metal MEU 1911

Ideally I’d like the M27 to have the ability to not shoot on an empty mag and to have to hit the bolt catch to continue shooting.

You cant really go wrong with either of those choices.

I mean... You should OBVIOUSLY get the ak74 but then again im biased as fuck towards aks ahhaha.

[BioRage]

If you want bolt stop function for aegs you'll have to look into too the TM, Kwa erg, or Scorpion Evo

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by Donster 125

A few questions:

1. Have gas guns improved? Are they more durable to repeated use?
2. I’ve noticed that a lot of retailers have a good selection, but all out of stock. Do they get new shipments in regularly?
3. Back in the day, I rocked a decked out TM M14. I see that G&G makes a full metal and wood version that’s TM compatible. Is it worth looking into?

As far as gas goes, put it this way. I ran my GHK M4 for most of “Nightfall 8” 2 weekends ago with maybe one mag blowout which was around 3am. With .32 madbull bio bb’s I can get at least 280-300’ with a 229mm inner barrel at 1.4J.

That’s how far GBBR have come.

It’s all about hop up and bb weight. Not like back in the day when it was .2’s and .25’s and not using much hop and m120 springs.

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by Donster

Appreciate the response!

If I do get back into airsoft I will be wanting to buy a one-stop shop.

3-4 guns out of the gate + mags and upgrades and accessories.

Ideally I’d be looking at the following:

Umarex/VFC MP7 AEG
Umarex/VFC M27 IAR
LCT AK-74

And a pistol of some sort. Are TM 1911s still good? I’d love a full metal MEU 1911

Ideally I’d like the M27 to have the ability to not shoot on an empty mag and to have to hit the bolt catch to continue shooting.

I’m using an EMG Salient Arms 2011, which is an Evike brand but made by AW Customs. It’s a slick gun and there is a Glock SAI as well. It’s still all hit and miss tbh.

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by Donster

Thanks!

Is there a marked difference between a GBBR and an electro recoil rifke?

You’re not gonna get the kick from a Blowback AEG like you would from a GBBR. It’s a toss up right now for me between my GHK colt cybergun and my Umarex VFC HK416D gbbr. I get more gas blow outs on the VFC but the body is immaculate. Definitely needs mods and shimming where the GHK is money. I replaced my springs though for more recoil.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by BobbyDangerous

As far as gas goes, put it this way. I ran my GHK M4 for most of “Nightfall 8” 2 weekends ago with maybe one mag blowout which was around 3am. With .32 madbull bio bb’s I can get at least 280-300’ with a 229mm inner barrel at 1.4J.

That’s how far GBBR have come.

It’s all about hop up and bb weight. Not like back in the day when it was .2’s and .25’s and not using much hop and m120 springs.

That’s amazing!

How are they with temperatures variations? I like playing spring to fall.

Are gas guns more consistently accurate now?

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by Donster

That’s amazing!

How are they with temperatures variations? I like playing spring to fall.

Are gas guns more consistently accurate now?

Nothing will ever outgun an AEG, in terms of accuracy, range and ammo capacity unfortunately.

Gas Guns are still the same, they vary depending on your gas in the mag - sure they are more reliable now and more gas efficient (i.e GHK / GHK Gen 2 mags) but you're dropping a lot on a full setup. (Rifle + 6 mags will be near $1,000++ after tax new) (excluding necessity, fps reducer, etc.)

If you plan on playing CQB only, you can get away with gas, (all seasons at Siege is acceptable) - if you do outdoors, I'd recommend an AEG.

In all honestly, your real steel fixation can't be recouped in airsoft, just saying. Bans are all talk since election is soon.