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Old October 12th, 2007, 19:39   #16
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Herringbone gears eliminate the sideload as they behave like two opposing helicals merged together. Their resulting sideloads counter each other so they exert no net force on their bearings. For airsoft, this is overkill. Our bearings can handle the sideloads generated. It does mean that we have to shim in a way that assures no contact between the gear sides.

Helicals do have higher load capacities (more than 1 tooth engaged when rotating), but they also have higher rotating losses (more teeth wiping).
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Old October 13th, 2007, 11:08   #17
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herringbone would be sweet but the teeth would be less than 1mm wide. I was thinking about it and i cant figure out how hellicals would be weeker. they have been using them in cars since car first had transmision and thats everything from you 50hp Austin mini to a 1000hp Supra
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Old October 13th, 2007, 17:05   #18
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Holy crap my thread is STILL alive.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 18:03   #19
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Some helical gears only use half tooth pistons and good shimming is really important. I'm selling mine if anyone is interested. I have a video and pictures available and they still use full tooth pistons. I also have a shim guide which should give you a good starting point.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=45014
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Old October 14th, 2007, 15:36   #20
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Unlimited or infinity torque gear sets
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:47   #21
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Are there self shimming gear sets?

Helical or Flat..

EDIT: oops, sorry about necro posting. Forgot to check the date...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 17:12   #22
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Are there self shimming gear sets?

Helical or Flat..

EDIT: oops, sorry about necro posting. Forgot to check the date...
That would be the Phoenix Gearset.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 18:27   #23
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Damage, I'm sure you can get some for me

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Old January 29th, 2008, 16:01   #24
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Found em on UNC. Anyone has some experience with those?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 17:55   #25
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Found em on UNC. Anyone has some experience with those?
Shimming really isn't that hard...

The Systema gears will save you about 30-40 bucks..
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Old January 29th, 2008, 20:40   #26
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Thanks for the input Amos but for the sake of reliability and without taking note of the price; wouldn't that gearset and some bearing bushing be quite good for a gearbox?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 21:58   #27
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Are there self shimming gear sets?

Helical or Flat..

EDIT: oops, sorry about necro posting. Forgot to check the date...
Modify modular gear set. You can get them for standard, high speed, or high torque.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 22:01   #28
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Holy my thread just won't die. Lol.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 22:32   #29
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Crunchmeister; I have a reinforced gearbox so I don't think it would work.

Can you however point me somewhere where they sell it? I couldn't find em on UNC and WGC.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 23:16   #30
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Crunchmeister; I have a reinforced gearbox so I don't think it would work.

Can you however point me somewhere where they sell it? I couldn't find em on UNC and WGC.
http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...x&cPath=66_132
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