Part #66 for KSC MK23

SEALs · January 11th, 2008, 23:29

Mine used to be a charm (HK & HW), the dual recoil system made very smooth ( even with the upgrade spring) got the guarder upgrades ( recoil, hammer spring and reinforced part 66) until the day the piston system broke and now I cant find the parts for it, so I have 2 MK23 prior to 2005 version laying around broken

MrEvolution · January 12th, 2008, 01:30

and this is why you get a 1911...or a USP

SEALs · January 12th, 2008, 10:40

tm p226

Donster · January 12th, 2008, 11:15

see, back in the day, when i started paintball, i didn't listen to the advice of the vets and i ended up buying an entire platform, just to sell it within 6 months. I dont want that to happen with airsoft. thats why im getting an M14, cause its such a good stock gun (that and i have always loved the M14) and thats why im not going to upgrade it off the bat, cause the FAQ and you guys says i should play stock first, so when it comes time to buy a pistol, i still don't know what to do. this thread has told me both: buy a MK23 and upgrade it, for it will shoot well. or dont buy a MK23, cause its nothing but problems and a waste of money. truth be told, if stalker can get his pre 2005 version to work well, i think i should be able to get a 2005 HK HW version to perform almost flawlessly no?

CDN_Stalker · January 12th, 2008, 12:11

Honestly no idea, but mine in stock form has performed very well, and still after a tightbore was added. Next I'll get a metal slide kit. But seems like latter MK23s suffer all the issues here, one report in the US was that his spring guide broke in half. Was a shitty pot metal one, not the solid steel one I have.

Lakonian · January 12th, 2008, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEvolution

and this is why you get a 1911..

Smart man. 1911s (specifically the WA variety) will last a fuckin' long time, and wont have stupid problems, that can't be remedied.

Donster · January 12th, 2008, 12:56

can you make a KSC USP shoot as well as the MK23? If so, ill just make the USP .45 from COD4 and get a TM MK23 just so i can say that i have one. still though, i would like a realistic blowback MK23. the reason why i love it so much, other than the fact that the SEALS use one and that in the first Splinter Cells games, you had one is that you can cock the hammer back and fire off a bb without the slide moving, just like the real thing. i think that is one of the coolest features about the gun.

EDIT: any idea on my original post? why is the reingorce sear pin cheaper than the simple replacement one?

CDN_Stalker · January 12th, 2008, 13:18

SEALs often also use the HK USP Tactical since it's based largely on the MK23, and the MK23 was based largely on the original design of the USP in .45cal. Offers same performance, in a smaller package.

Donster · January 12th, 2008, 13:20

interesting i didn't know that. i personally dont like the look of that though. for me its either the USP .45 or the MK23.

CDN_Stalker · January 12th, 2008, 13:26

Personally I'd go for the Tactical over the standard USP, I guess simply because of the match trigger and threaded barrel (well, real steel anyways, but I don't think you can get a Tactical airsoft USP unless you add parts.)

Donster · January 12th, 2008, 13:29

actually, you can.... scroll down a bit

Donster · January 12th, 2008, 14:40

just to clarify, the 05 MK23 is the one with the single stage recoil system; that is to say there is a spring guide and one spring, whereas the pre 2005 version are more similar to the real steel gun, with the dual spring, recoil system, as in the version that stalker has. is this correct, or was my research in vain?

EDIT: also, any idea with regards to my first post?

SEALs · January 12th, 2008, 20:02

yes thats correct. If you're getting the older dual stage, dont expect lots of recoil since the dual stage takes most of the shock so its more accurate.

CDN_Stalker · January 12th, 2008, 22:05

Is also a lot sloppier recoil. I'll see about taking a pic of my modified spring guide assembly using the parts it came with, improved the recoil, speeds it up a lot and has lasted a long time sd far.

CDN_Stalker · January 13th, 2008, 12:57

After freezing my ass off in the basement and having cold hands, AND chronying my 340fps G19 (got in the 260fps range), I'll have to retract my "20-22C" I've been testing the MK23 with the 380 kit with. Will have to wait til summer to see if I can actually get much higher than 315fps (stock). Some of the parts in that kit didn't fit in my MK23, the important ones did though (the rocket valve tube thingy, and it's spring), so we'll have to see.

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January 11th, 2008, 23:29	#16
SEALs Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Watchin' your 6.	Mine used to be a charm (HK & HW), the dual recoil system made very smooth ( even with the upgrade spring) got the guarder upgrades ( recoil, hammer spring and reinforced part 66) until the day the piston system broke and now I cant find the parts for it, so I have 2 MK23 prior to 2005 version laying around broken __________________ If you're short of everything except enemies, you're in combat. D.O.W. SEALs Father of fear, reckless and widowmaker

January 12th, 2008, 10:40	#18
SEALs Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Watchin' your 6.	tm p226 __________________ If you're short of everything except enemies, you're in combat. D.O.W. SEALs Father of fear, reckless and widowmaker

January 12th, 2008, 12:11	#20
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Honestly no idea, but mine in stock form has performed very well, and still after a tightbore was added. Next I'll get a metal slide kit. But seems like latter MK23s suffer all the issues here, one report in the US was that his spring guide broke in half. Was a shitty pot metal one, not the solid steel one I have. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

January 12th, 2008, 11:15	#19
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	see, back in the day, when i started paintball, i didn't listen to the advice of the vets and i ended up buying an entire platform, just to sell it within 6 months. I dont want that to happen with airsoft. thats why im getting an M14, cause its such a good stock gun (that and i have always loved the M14) and thats why im not going to upgrade it off the bat, cause the FAQ and you guys says i should play stock first, so when it comes time to buy a pistol, i still don't know what to do. this thread has told me both: buy a MK23 and upgrade it, for it will shoot well. or dont buy a MK23, cause its nothing but problems and a waste of money. truth be told, if stalker can get his pre 2005 version to work well, i think i should be able to get a 2005 HK HW version to perform almost flawlessly no?

January 12th, 2008, 12:56	#22
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	can you make a KSC USP shoot as well as the MK23? If so, ill just make the USP .45 from COD4 and get a TM MK23 just so i can say that i have one. still though, i would like a realistic blowback MK23. the reason why i love it so much, other than the fact that the SEALS use one and that in the first Splinter Cells games, you had one is that you can cock the hammer back and fire off a bb without the slide moving, just like the real thing. i think that is one of the coolest features about the gun. EDIT: any idea on my original post? why is the reingorce sear pin cheaper than the simple replacement one? Last edited by Donster; January 12th, 2008 at 13:04..

January 12th, 2008, 13:18	#23
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	SEALs often also use the HK USP Tactical since it's based largely on the MK23, and the MK23 was based largely on the original design of the USP in .45cal. Offers same performance, in a smaller package. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

January 12th, 2008, 13:20	#24
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	interesting i didn't know that. i personally dont like the look of that though. for me its either the USP .45 or the MK23.

January 12th, 2008, 13:26	#25
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Personally I'd go for the Tactical over the standard USP, I guess simply because of the match trigger and threaded barrel (well, real steel anyways, but I don't think you can get a Tactical airsoft USP unless you add parts.) __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

January 12th, 2008, 13:29	#26
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	actually, you can.... scroll down a bit

January 12th, 2008, 14:40	#27
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	just to clarify, the 05 MK23 is the one with the single stage recoil system; that is to say there is a spring guide and one spring, whereas the pre 2005 version are more similar to the real steel gun, with the dual spring, recoil system, as in the version that stalker has. is this correct, or was my research in vain? EDIT: also, any idea with regards to my first post? Last edited by Donster; January 12th, 2008 at 18:05..

January 12th, 2008, 20:02	#28
SEALs Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Watchin' your 6.	yes thats correct. If you're getting the older dual stage, dont expect lots of recoil since the dual stage takes most of the shock so its more accurate. __________________ If you're short of everything except enemies, you're in combat. D.O.W. SEALs Father of fear, reckless and widowmaker

January 12th, 2008, 22:05	#29
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Is also a lot sloppier recoil. I'll see about taking a pic of my modified spring guide assembly using the parts it came with, improved the recoil, speeds it up a lot and has lasted a long time sd far. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

January 13th, 2008, 12:57	#30
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	After freezing my ass off in the basement and having cold hands, AND chronying my 340fps G19 (got in the 260fps range), I'll have to retract my "20-22C" I've been testing the MK23 with the 380 kit with. Will have to wait til summer to see if I can actually get much higher than 315fps (stock). Some of the parts in that kit didn't fit in my MK23, the important ones did though (the rocket valve tube thingy, and it's spring), so we'll have to see. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

Part #66 for KSC MK23

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