Systema springs broke too often

[six4]

Originally Posted by jameskersten

weird, I guess I will chrono my ICS next time i am up at the field just to see where mine stands, I have a m120s in it now and i think i put around 5000 rounds through it since new. I know I was shooting around 340-345 with .25s in it before.

since i switched to madbull m110 ( made from piano wire ) my ics m16 is shooting 390fps with mt.20

[Zukoff]

Originally Posted by six4

i copied and modified your pic,,and re-posted for clarity.

Thank you!

[ILLusion]

This topic is very interesting, as I just had one of my customers come to me with images of a Systema M120S (Stainless) that had also snapped. This spring was purchased from me and I got it either from Wargamer's or UNCompany.

It's almost like one of those "strange but true" urban myths you hear about and is completely wack in my mind. I don't even know if this is something Systema would warranty for...

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by six4

since i switched to madbull m110 ( made from piano wire ) my ics m16 is shooting 390fps with mt.20

I have a couple Madbull 110 springs and have tried one, found it to be rather stiff (lower rate of fire) and borderline 400fps, a bit too close for my tastes (since it'd occasionally give me upwards of 408fps) as I like at least 5-10fps amount of headroom to help pass the chrony at games.

[Zukoff]

Systema uses springs from sone alluminium alloy whichare not properly tampered.I've gived a pring to engeneer and he said that that particular springs sucks. He suggest to search springs from piano wire/steel which will work forewer.

[DarkAgent]

ive only ever used systema springs except one time. my AUG had a Prometheus 400fps spring for about 2 weeks before it snaped.

[Splashx]

My systema M100 broke too last week, 1 year light use

[Crunchmeister]

Haven't had any experience with Systema springs, but I know every other Systema part I've bought except the silent piston / cylinder head set has failed miserably. I'm never again popping money into that overpriced garbage.

So far, I've had:

• Systema red polycarbonate piston explode after about 500 rounds
• Systema tappet plate snap after about 750 rounds
• Systema spring guide break after about 1000 rounds
• 2 Systema nozzles break, both with less than 500 rounds.

So I'm not suprised to hear about their shitty springs.

And BTW, my parts were all genuine Systema (not Area 1000) and all purchased from Jugglez (except the nozzles that came from Redwolf), so I doubt they were counterfeits.

[ThunderCactus]

I've heard of 2 systema springs breaking in Mb, had to work on one of those.
I use prometheus springs, and apart from the occasional color blind worker putting the spring in the wrong package, they work pretty well

[Jimski]

ah crap I just bought a systema spring.
I'll switch to Modify too.

and apart from the occasional color blind worker putting the spring in the wrong package

I knew it :<

[mcguyver]

Stainless steel is more brittle than carbon steel. I could easily see why their M120S would break.

Depending on the grade of stainless, it may not even be magnetic, and easily confused with a cheap alloy.

Stick to steel springs, I happen to be a fan of Prometheus.