Clearsoft = Canadian legal?

johjoh · June 25th, 2009, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Con Murder

If a bunch of people wanted to spend thousands of dollars on toys then play together in secluded areas week after week you would think that the government would consider the revenue, eh? $1000 gun, $100 gst (I'm albertan and so no pst) uniform $100-$300+ gst, gas to get to the feild $20, all the food, water and bbs for one man $20-$30

This looks like a great ressesion killing machine!

haha lmao i actually laughed loud to this one

Agent T · September 27th, 2010, 20:01

Can anyone tell me if the We Tech SCAR is Canadian Legal. Because i have seen some on canadian airsoft sites.

Darklen · September 27th, 2010, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Agent T

Can anyone tell me if the We Tech SCAR is Canadian Legal. Because i have seen some on canadian airsoft sites.

1) Yes it is
2) Search a bit more next time
3) Don't necro threads if you're too lazy to search
4) Newbie Tank does not = spoonfeeding

sortie39 · September 27th, 2010, 21:32

clearsofts are absolutely legal in canada,but its still illegal to import them!!

ShadowYami · September 27th, 2010, 21:35

Clear lower receiver means if an officer asks you for a look in the weapons case there is no "gray" its an air soft gun

legal counsel definition of air soft gun "non lethal non licences non registered firearm"
that means its still in the category of "firearm" theres just no laws that require it to have a licence or be registered. But regardless you pull an air soft out in public even crossman clear soft its brandishing a firearm.

air soft guns have been considered to that point since atleast 1990. the "gray" part is: is it an air soft gun? or is it a replica? Same can be said about the "m4 paintball guns" as they walk into the same gray as most air soft, but fully assembled m4 paintball gun no longer looks like a true m4 it looks like a paint marker upon examination. same can be said about the clear or tinted receivers. It makes the air soft portions clearly visible upon examination

My suggestion to those reading is get your air soft weapons case lock and make the mechbox identifiable with out opening the gun a lot less issues but no more or less legal

They say Canadian legal because they are easy to identify as air soft over replica

This info comes from some 15 court cases summed into a nice small simple spoonful for noobs to find them selves. As well as legal counsel interpretation of the "Canadian legal" no since making a topic for this when a noob decides to necro something old. You still need to do your study

Belaslav · September 28th, 2010, 02:29

Question: Does owning a non-restricted firearm licence make your life easier in terms of owning "non-clear" airsoft firearms?

Darklen · September 29th, 2010, 04:02

Deleted unrelated, useless posts and posts which were, for the most part, already answered earlier.

I see several people wanting some vacation time away from ASC.

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Originally Posted by Belaslav

Question: Does owning a non-restricted firearm licence make your life easier in terms of owning "non-clear" airsoft firearms?

Nope, you having your PAL/RPAL has absolutely nothing to do with airsoft in this country. Welcome to Canada.

You're options are:

1) Buy either online from an existing dealer from within Canada, there's lots.

2) Get Age Verfied for ASC. That will give you access to the Classifieds sections (I've personally gotten a lot of good deals there) as well as access to our supporting retailers. Age Verfication does not make you bulletproof, allow you to fly or divide by zero, it just opens a few extra doors here on ASC. Some retailers use our Age Verification system to ensure they only sell to +18, but it really has no basis outside of these boards.

Belaslav · September 29th, 2010, 17:16

Hmm, I see.

Another question: Lets assume the worst possible case scenario, where I get caught with a non-clear airsoft firearm (m4 carbine, for instance) in a case in the middle of a street by a police officer. What then?

I'm sorry if I sound annoying and such, but I'd really like to know what I'm getting myself into before I "jump the gun". Last thing I need is a criminal record.

Amos · September 29th, 2010, 17:24

Depends what you're doing with it.

If you're preforming a criminal activity with it, You'll be charged as if it were a real firearm.

A more realistic situation would be getting pulled over on the way to a game and giving the officer permission to look in your gun case.

The most probable thing that'll happen is he'll inspect it, realize it's not real-firearm, you'll explain what it's for and he'll tell you to have a nice day.

Belaslav · September 29th, 2010, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Amos

Depends what you're doing with it.

If you're preforming a criminal activity with it, You'll be charged as if it were a real firearm.

A more realistic situation would be getting pulled over on the way to a game and giving the officer permission to look in your gun case.

The most probable thing that'll happen is he'll inspect it, realize it's not real-firearm, you'll explain what it's for and he'll tell you to have a nice day.

Uhuh. And if he's in a bad mood?

Crunchmeister · September 29th, 2010, 17:37

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Originally Posted by Belaslav

Uhuh. And if he's in a bad mood?

There's nothing illegal about possessing an airsoft gun as long as you're not breaking the law with it.

L473ncy · September 29th, 2010, 17:49

Don't need to be worried about that. Why are you getting pulled over in the first place? Do you like in Jane and Finch or Regent Park?

Unless you're swerving in and out of traffic at a high speed and cutting people off I doubt you'll get pulled over and the officer will be in a bad mood. Most of the time if you're honest (even if they're in a bad mood) nothing bad will happen of your stuff if you explain you're going to a paintball or airsoft field.

Also as Crunch said nothing wrong with possessing a black gun once it's in Canada, at the border it's a different story though and they play by their own rules. Although the caveat is that you shouldn't be a minor with said gun because there are provincial bylaws in place preventing sale of airguns (that includes airsoft, .177 pellet, and paintball markers) by minors.

PS: You want to know who else doesn't need a criminal record here? All the Engineers (who want to be Professionally Registered) as well as the Lawyers and such. That's because it looks bad for their profession and association itself so they tend to bar people with serious criminal records from joining the associations. ie. If I wanted to become a Chartered Accountant, Professional Engineer, Teacher, or Lawyer and I had a gun smuggling charge I would probably be barred from getting my professional designation and membership in such associations.

Styrak · September 29th, 2010, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Belaslav

Uhuh. And if he's in a bad mood?

Then don't allow him to search your vehicle in the first place.
But like Crunch said, nothing illegal about owning an airsoft gun.

Hurley895 · September 29th, 2010, 18:43

The police can be pretty understanding as long as you aren't causing problems for them.

Belaslav · September 29th, 2010, 19:48

Okay, so to sum it up:

There is nothing wrong with carrying a full metal airsoft firearm in broad daylight as long as it's not out in the open, and secured safely in a case. If in case an officer stops you and asks for permission to look in the case, cooperate to increase your chances of simply being released and on your way. If for any reason, the officer gets on your case of you owning a non-clear airsoft firearm, simply tell him that you bought the firearm/firearm parts on Canada grounds.

Owning/transporting a full metal airsoft firearm in a case is legal, however importing certain metal parts such as barrels and/or receiver across the border is not legal. Leave importing of metal parts to the airsoft retailers located in Canada, and buy from them.

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September 27th, 2010, 21:35	#20
ShadowYami Trader rating Join Date: May 2010	Clear lower receiver means if an officer asks you for a look in the weapons case there is no "gray" its an air soft gun legal counsel definition of air soft gun "non lethal non licences non registered firearm" that means its still in the category of "firearm" theres just no laws that require it to have a licence or be registered. But regardless you pull an air soft out in public even crossman clear soft its brandishing a firearm. air soft guns have been considered to that point since atleast 1990. the "gray" part is: is it an air soft gun? or is it a replica? Same can be said about the "m4 paintball guns" as they walk into the same gray as most air soft, but fully assembled m4 paintball gun no longer looks like a true m4 it looks like a paint marker upon examination. same can be said about the clear or tinted receivers. It makes the air soft portions clearly visible upon examination My suggestion to those reading is get your air soft weapons case lock and make the mechbox identifiable with out opening the gun a lot less issues but no more or less legal They say Canadian legal because they are easy to identify as air soft over replica This info comes from some 15 court cases summed into a nice small simple spoonful for noobs to find them selves. As well as legal counsel interpretation of the "Canadian legal" no since making a topic for this when a noob decides to necro something old. You still need to do your study __________________ Its still alive? It should be dead by now. The famass that will not die. It only ever gets used because it has not fired its last shot yet. When I can't patch it up its going to be hung on the wall like a good version 1.

September 29th, 2010, 17:16	#23
Belaslav Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto, ON	Hmm, I see. Another question: Lets assume the worst possible case scenario, where I get caught with a non-clear airsoft firearm (m4 carbine, for instance) in a case in the middle of a street by a police officer. What then? I'm sorry if I sound annoying and such, but I'd really like to know what I'm getting myself into before I "jump the gun". Last thing I need is a criminal record. Last edited by Belaslav; September 29th, 2010 at 17:24..

September 29th, 2010, 17:24	#24
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Depends what you're doing with it. If you're preforming a criminal activity with it, You'll be charged as if it were a real firearm. A more realistic situation would be getting pulled over on the way to a game and giving the officer permission to look in your gun case. The most probable thing that'll happen is he'll inspect it, realize it's not real-firearm, you'll explain what it's for and he'll tell you to have a nice day. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

September 27th, 2010, 20:01	#17
Agent T Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Universe, on planet Earth, in North America, in Canada, in Québec and camouflaged..	Can anyone tell me if the We Tech SCAR is Canadian Legal. Because i have seen some on canadian airsoft sites.

September 27th, 2010, 21:32	#19
sortie39 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary AB	clearsofts are absolutely legal in canada,but its still illegal to import them!!

September 28th, 2010, 02:29	#21
Belaslav Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto, ON	Question: Does owning a non-restricted firearm licence make your life easier in terms of owning "non-clear" airsoft firearms?

September 29th, 2010, 17:49	#27
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	Don't need to be worried about that. Why are you getting pulled over in the first place? Do you like in Jane and Finch or Regent Park? Unless you're swerving in and out of traffic at a high speed and cutting people off I doubt you'll get pulled over and the officer will be in a bad mood. Most of the time if you're honest (even if they're in a bad mood) nothing bad will happen of your stuff if you explain you're going to a paintball or airsoft field. Also as Crunch said nothing wrong with possessing a black gun once it's in Canada, at the border it's a different story though and they play by their own rules. Although the caveat is that you shouldn't be a minor with said gun because there are provincial bylaws in place preventing sale of airguns (that includes airsoft, .177 pellet, and paintball markers) by minors. PS: You want to know who else doesn't need a criminal record here? All the Engineers (who want to be Professionally Registered) as well as the Lawyers and such. That's because it looks bad for their profession and association itself so they tend to bar people with serious criminal records from joining the associations. ie. If I wanted to become a Chartered Accountant, Professional Engineer, Teacher, or Lawyer and I had a gun smuggling charge I would probably be barred from getting my professional designation and membership in such associations. __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

September 29th, 2010, 18:43	#29
Hurley895 The Costco Kid Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. John's NF	The police can be pretty understanding as long as you aren't causing problems for them.

September 29th, 2010, 19:48	#30
Belaslav Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto, ON	Okay, so to sum it up: There is nothing wrong with carrying a full metal airsoft firearm in broad daylight as long as it's not out in the open, and secured safely in a case. If in case an officer stops you and asks for permission to look in the case, cooperate to increase your chances of simply being released and on your way. If for any reason, the officer gets on your case of you owning a non-clear airsoft firearm, simply tell him that you bought the firearm/firearm parts on Canada grounds. Owning/transporting a full metal airsoft firearm in a case is legal, however importing certain metal parts such as barrels and/or receiver across the border is not legal. Leave importing of metal parts to the airsoft retailers located in Canada, and buy from them. Did I miss anything?