How important is a bipod to a "sniper"

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by mills0

I would disagreee, I'd rather have kit that suits me needs then useless stuff that makes me look "cool". To me the guy that can take out half the enemy with a spring pistol in jeans and a t-shirt is cool. (I've seen it done)

He was being sarcastic. Lol

[BobbyDangerous]

Important for when you're laying prone or want to rest your rifle on top of something to steady the shot? Helps control the recoil too which is something that is super minimal in airsoft. Bi-pod on a sniper serves basically the same ideal as a Fore-grip on an SMG or AR...

[Spawn28]

And for the amount of time it takes to put on and take off i would get one they do like Stalker said come in very handy and if your crawlin around just throw it in your ruck till your destination is reached. JMO i have one on my rifle and love it I wouldnt game without it.

[CDN_Stalker]

I gamed a couple days without a bipod on my rifle, was totally odd (felt naked), and really learned the benefits of having it there for when it is useful. I'd still game without it, but it's not worth it.

[FOX_111]

I'd never hit the field without a bipod on my rifle.

I rarely deploy it for shooting, but it's definatly usefull to rest the rifle on it (legs folded) for a little raise. I also use it's base as a grabing handle to manuver the rifle when crawling. I also use it as a handle to raise the rifle with my fist when shooting prone, low on the ground.

It snag, but not that much. You learn to live with it. I use an Harris Ultralight, medium size bipod. The fixed type and not the swivel type.

When observing for long period of time in milsims, you will like your bipod. You will also stay longer behing your scope and be less fatigued.

Those that trash the bipod use and think it's only cosmetic are not spending a lot of time playing as a sniper in milsims. They might be doing more running and gunning and a lot less crawling and observing.

[krap101]

Originally Posted by mills0

I would disagreee, I'd rather have kit that suits me needs then useless stuff that makes me look "cool". To me the guy that can take out half the enemy with a spring pistol in jeans and a t-shirt is cool. (I've seen it done)

There is a difference between "cool" and "tacticool"!, jk. Once I get my bipod I'll have a better idea of what I need. I'm just trying to plan ahead.

I also decided to put in the spring number to try to clarify where I was headed, but I guess that wasn't the case. a 100sp shoots around 330 with .20's (according to a few sites) and I think that's the lowest spring for a vsr/bar. This year we've been playing on pretty small fields (I'm guessing maybe 1-2 football fields for one and like 3-5 for the other. Most of the time we were within maybe 30 yards from each other, so yeah, I'll get a better idea of what I need once I field the gun.

I do agree that a bipod makes sniper rifles look badass.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by mills0

I would disagreee, I'd rather have kit that suits me needs then useless stuff that makes me look "cool". To me the guy that can take out half the enemy with a spring pistol in jeans and a t-shirt is cool. (I've seen it done)

As stalker said, i was joking.

But in terms of your post. I would also disagree. In my opinion, Airsoft is "MILSIM", Not street clothes. Wearing street clothes, totally takes away from the game, and makes you look silly.

It depends on what your club is all about i guess. And i know your just making a point also. The bipod is not just for looks as mentioned by many other "vets" lol.

[CDN_Stalker]

Am glad my 'certified brethren' (fellow "One Percenters") finally decided to join this thread with their opinions, largely backing me up with their experiences regarding bipod use. Gets annoying to see guys that never even tried the role of sniper offer up opinions based solely on what they've seen other guys type up in the past regarding BA rifles. Those that actually TRIED the role but found it wasn't their thing have more of an opinion than those that haven't.

[Hades]

Not to mention if you are especially in a good hiding position a bipod will allow you to make quicker more accurate follow-up shots so you can sling more plastic down range and keep your opponents heads down.

[krap101]

Now that I think about it, it'll give you more leverage when pulling the bolt back (not sure how heavy the bolt pull will be yet) so you won't have to worry about rubbing your barrel in the mud.

[FOX_111]

Originally Posted by krap101

Now that I think about it, it'll give you more leverage when pulling the bolt back (not sure how heavy the bolt pull will be yet) so you won't have to worry about rubbing your barrel in the mud.

Not really. To pull heavy bolt back, you kinda have to brace yourself on the rifle. If the rifle is sitting on the bipod, it will most probably get off the ground during the manuver.

My M24 bolt pull is pretty heavy. I have an old school upgraded spring in it. The first few days when I got it, it would strain my forearms.

When shooting prone, a bipod will allow one hand to remain in a support position while the shooting hand work the bolt. That's only viable for gas operated rifles or very light spring rifle. And by very light, it would probably be a heavelly tuned rifle with a weak spring.

In airsoft, when cycling the bolt in the prone position, you will hold the rifle with your support hand, resting your elbow on the ground, and pull back the bolt with your firing hand. Your body will probably have to turn on it's side to pull with some of your back musles when working a heavy bolt. Much like a hunting bow.

Remember that those upgraded bolt must be pulled in a way to reduce side tortion, to avoid breaking the bolt. We are dealing with cheap pot metal, or steal supported by cheap pot metal or plastic. It's not at all like a real bolt that can be pulled by one finger on the tip of the knob.

Also, following shots are slow. You watch your BB fly to the target and reload when it hit. You rarely send in a fast voley. Unless you don't care about hitting.

YouTube- OP Quick Pass

Watch at 0:52. It's me working the bolt and killing the opfor. Notice how I hold my bolt and support the rifle. It's also resting on the sandbags on the folded bipod.

[zollen]

Functionally there is no such thing as sniper rifles in airsoft world. All airsoft guns have roughly the same power range 320fps-450fps. If some are sightly overpowered, almost all games require your rifle to cap the fps for safety.

That being said, there is nothing to stop you from roleplaying as a sniper. Ask yourself, how important a bipods to "you" as a sniper?

[FOX_111]

Originally Posted by zollen

Functionally there is no such thing as sniper rifles in airsoft world. All airsoft guns have roughly the same power range 320fps-450fps. If some are sightly overpowered, almost all games require your rifle to cap the fps for safety.

That being said, there is nothing to stop you from roleplaying as a sniper. Ask yourself, how important a bipods to "you" as a sniper?

You are speaking out of what kind of experience here?

I won't go into the fps and power debate. Because you are wrong.

You don't even answer the question about bipod nor ad points to the conversation.

[yuhaoyang]

I don't think this discussion is limited to BAs, on semi-autos you can do followup shots quick, also, I found for most DMR rifles, a hand under your mag does wonders; I failed to take into consideration that there are some very light bipods out there; give some a try maybe?
I still refuse to use one though =p

[coach]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

You are speaking out of what kind of experience here?

I won't go into the fps and power debate. Because you are wrong.

You don't even answer the question about bipod nor ad points to the conversation.

it's because we pound these nubs with info that sways them from starting off with a BA.

Originally Posted by zollen

Functionally there is no such thing as sniper rifles in airsoft world. All airsoft guns have roughly the same power range 320fps-450fps. If some are sightly overpowered, almost all games require your rifle to cap the fps for safety.

That being said, there is nothing to stop you from roleplaying as a sniper. Ask yourself, how important a bipods to "you" as a sniper?

so then why are certified BA operators allowed to use level 2 BA's, which exceeds local field limits?