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Old August 11th, 2010, 03:54   #31
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So how was it after the game?
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Old August 11th, 2010, 23:17   #32
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well i was all ready to do my testing, i get an email from my the Captain of my team and appearntly we are going to conform to a set of Universal sniper regulations.

so as i have No airsoft sniper training My rifle is limited to under 450 fps...
so that said, i didnt play it.
I did some fast range testing and with about 60% hop up, i can keep a 4" circle at 180 feet.

so i dropped in the 125 elemnt spring and its a sproatic little Bit in the azz.
with .20 == 488 432 470, 470,501, 444, 445,449,480,488,487,488,487,444,445
Nice, about as random as you can get hahahaha
I let it sit for a couple days and will do some testing but i figure if it is still sporatic, I'll
cock the rifle and let it sit for a couple 3 hours and compress the spring a bit and see if that levels it out a bit.

More info to follow
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Old August 12th, 2010, 01:15   #33
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Use PDI springs, they're great!
And don't let being under 450 make you think you'll be ANY less accurate or have ANY less range.
The difference between my 380fps (at the time) VSR and Amos' 470fps VSR was about 15 feet, and no difference in accuracy!
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Old August 12th, 2010, 01:38   #34
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That's a bit disappointing! I was really looking forward to the full review on the game play and how you felt as a sniper in fire fight and down range shooting! But I guess next time.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:05   #35
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(Kos-Mos -beleives .28s are way too light. Go AT LEAST with .30 if you plan on using it for anything... recommend .36s)
Do you agree?
Yes yes yes yes YES.
You absolutely must use heavy ammo in these snipers for 2 reasons:
1. Wind; heavier ammo cuts through wind better, and wind is bad
2. Accuracy; heavier bb's have a heavier center of gravity, making them alot more accurate, for example, I experimented with my setup:
150 spring, dampened cylinder head, zero trigger + high pressure piston, PDI 6.01 554mm tightbore, nine ball bucking.
Running at about 450fps
.25's 30m 8 inch groupings
.36's 30m, 2 inch groupings

As you can see .10 of a gram makes a HUGE difference.


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And don't let being under 450 make you think you'll be ANY less accurate or have ANY less range.
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This.
I tend to notice that a lower fps is alot more accurate, experimenting with my 120 spring (400fps) vs my 150 spring (450fps) revealed:
150 Spring (480 fps) - Pros: A little bit more range, cuts through wind better
Cons: Less accurate, Loud
120 Spring (400fps) - Pros: More accurate, Dead quiet
Cons: A little bit less range, doesn't cut through wind as well


Hope this helps.

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Old August 12th, 2010, 15:02   #36
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Depends on the weight of ammo, I've found most ammo types like to run at 320-340fps (at their respective weights)
So at 380 (on .20s) .28s are ideal, whereas up to 440 .30s are good, but 440-470 you need .36s
Either way your getting the same speed out of the BB just with more wind resistance and a better ability to punch through foliage
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Old August 12th, 2010, 23:59   #37
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Hi folks.
hahha First off I truley understand higher FPS doesnt mean better.
I used to play paint ball, my prolite at 280 fps was good for about 60 feet then the ball was gone where ever it felt like going, at 260 FPS i was good past 80 feet clean.

I figure i'll try and Find a spring that will drop me Just under 450 with 20s then
likely use a Bival 30 for intial testing and Game play (but I'll borrow a handfull of heavy wt (36 or better) and drop them in my second Mag just in case hahahah

I cant wait to play. I dont mind the dig in followed by the big wait hahah
No Highny you are not going to see a "hate sniperin -- VSR for sale" thread from this Guy hahahah

I do like the counter sniper role. Move with the squadand when we stop for what ever reason, goto the long bore and scan for the bad guys, granted if i do it dumb I'll find the snipers bullet first, but if i use a little sence, I'll pull him out before my crew eats one

i thought it was PDI barrels good PDI springs bad
thanks for the feedback as always gentlemen
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Old August 13th, 2010, 00:02   #38
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I need to tune my rifle some day soon..... Cant hit anything!

Thunder, i believe your around my FPS, what do you use? BB bastard i assume, and im going to guess .28 and .30's?
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Old August 13th, 2010, 02:10   #39
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Yep, .30s when it counts and .28s when I feel cheap or when I'm only going to be engaging in close.
And there's nothing wrong with having a VSR as a DMR, you don't have semi auto but you make up for it by having wicked accuracy, and you can rack and snap shoot fairly quickly with a VSR. And it DOES come in handy in a firefight, as most people tend to think of a person as less of a threat, they'll be shooting at your buddies with LMG's and AEG's first while you pick off the enemy one by one by shooting them in exposed elbows and arses
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Old August 13th, 2010, 12:11   #40
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I do like the counter sniper role. Move with the squadand when we stop for what ever reason, goto the long bore and scan for the bad guys, granted if i do it dumb I'll find the snipers bullet first, but if i use a little sence, I'll pull him out before my crew eats one
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What I've learned, if there's alot of them, prioritize your targets.
1. Enemy Sniper
2, Guy that's closest or has the biggest gun

And sniping sure is fun, but it's not for everyone and it's alot more physically stressful than most would think.

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And it DOES come in handy in a firefight, as most people tend to think of a person as less of a threat, they'll be shooting at your buddies with LMG's and AEG's first while you pick off the enemy one by one by shooting them in exposed elbows and arses
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So true, except after countless times they've lost a firefight because of: "psst" ... "tick" "F*CK"
my enemy is starting to learn that I'm not "just a sniper" in a firefight.

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Old August 15th, 2010, 12:47   #41
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I cant wait to play. I dont mind the dig in followed by the big wait hahah
No Highny you are not going to see a "hate sniperin -- VSR for sale" thread from this Guy hahahah
Come on! I'm not a vulture but I sure would sniper

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physically stressful
What do you mean by that? Like running around the enemy and sniping their back? Or just freaking out wither to shoot who kind of stress(guess that's mental stress)?
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Old August 15th, 2010, 15:56   #42
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LOL
I know exactly what he's talkin about, try maintaining absolute stealth, in the fall, when the ground is covered in crusty leaves. Then your taking cover behind a tree waiting for your enemy to pass by, and you have to keep him in your rifle sights till you get a good clean shot through all the branches, so you have to lean around that tree while NOT moving your feet to make any sort of noise. And of course if someone comes by while your halfway through a motion, you have to stay in that position until you know they're not listening for you anymore.
You contort your body into all sorts of weird positions while still needing to maintain accuracy. Obviously most of your shots are going to come from comfortable standing, kneeling or prone positions, but every now and then you REALLY have to work for those kills!
Being a sniper (especially on fields with heavy underbrush) has a hell of alot more to do with stealth, concealment and discipline than long range shooting!
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Old August 15th, 2010, 18:37   #43
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Come on! I'm not a vulture but I sure would sniper
hahaha Nothing implied hahaha
I have been watching differnt posts from people who bought rifles same time i did and now i am seeing them for sale hahahah

Has anyone looked at the Gas cylinder for the VSR?
Kinda linking the idea of a nice ez pull and 10mm of travel to chamber a bb
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Old August 15th, 2010, 19:22   #44
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Yes, but no.

That is a crappy thing. Inconsistent, prone to leak and you get about 6-7 shots that was somewhat usable with a fill.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 19:22   #45
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Gas is the worst system for a sniper rifle, it's only advantage is that it's quiet, and you can get your spring rifle to be almost as quiet anyway.
Imagine having all the problems of the WE M16 GBBR, in your sniper rifle, but amplified due to the fact your trying to be really accurate.
It just gets REALLY inconsistent with temperature changes...
Spring rifles are the most consistent platforms out there, and I don't think anyone would argue with that
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