JG M4 S-System Opinionz

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by dragwindsor

... Probably wasn't that hard either.

And your point is?

[dragwindsor]

Thanks guys...I've been chatting and I found a better gun for my needs.

The JG HK416. Crane stock. Droppin in a Systema 1 spring. Putting a 9.6 3800 or 4200 in the crane.

I think I'm going to get a KWA olive and black USP .45 GBB as well.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by dragwindsor

Putting a 9.6 3800 or 4200 in the crane.

That's something of an overkill for a 1J spring.

[dragwindsor]

For how much it cost's, isn't it worth it for the guaranteed life?

[The Saint]

Higher battery power does not equal more guaranteed life. In fact, using a battery that's too powerful for the gun shortens its life. You should be looking at a 8.4v battery instead.

[dragwindsor]

Is the 9.6 ROF worth the lower life? What size 8.4? 3800 or 4200? Thanks

[The Saint]

8.4v would give you plenty high ROF. You're not "sacrificing" ROF by avoiding 9.6v, you're avoiding a silly ROF.

For NiMH batteries, anything between 1800 to 3800 is enough for such a modest spring.

[dragwindsor]

Is the Systema 1 the only way to get a JG HK416 <350 fps?

[The Saint]

Plenty of springs are rated for 350fps or less.

[No_Way]

Knowledge leecher !

[dragwindsor]

Sorry. Is a different spring the only way to get under 350?

[Savage Haggis]

Okay, everybody just settle the hell down for a minute & stop talking about swapping out this spring for that spring & so on.

I took my new JG/Echo M4S to it's first outdoor game today & it smoked a lot of players.
Lots of comments & questions about it & a lot of surprised looks when they discovered what it was.

Now, the only thing I did, more out of frustration than anything else, was mount a PEQ battery box to the right side rail to incorporate a butterfly 9.6V x 1700 MaH battery - THAT"S IT!!

That's all!

You don't need to start swapping this that or the other thing - know why?

No, why, Uncle Haggis?

Because the JG M4S comes pre-tuned.

Really!?

Yes, really.

Case in point, my AEG has a factory installed tight bore (I checked upon arrival) & the new black systema clone mech box. (that's right kids, no shit.) that chronos at/around 410/425 FPS with .20's.

I haven't chroned this gun yet, BUT!! I was knocking down players at ranges exceeding my other riced guns using .25s. these weren't lobs, these were direct engagements of opposing players.

I was able to engage through dense pine boughs & heavy foliage & make hard & direct contact hits on other players. (They were damned surprised to have that happen!)

So relax - research a little more & understand that you don't have to immediately spend more money gutting a perfectly good little clone right out of the box.

Now, if you're concerned about a lower fps rating for different fields I suggest, & that's all I'm doing here, suggesting, you try a different make & model. You'd be doing yourself a real disservice of gutting the current JG V2 M4S system AEG. I was shocked, as were other players, of how hard it shot & how hard it hit at some pretty damn impressive ranges. Find a used TM or ICS for lower base fps limits.

Myself, this is my 3rd Jing Gong & I see their product as only getting better.

My 1st, a JG M16A4 shooting 380+ fps straight out of the box.

My 2nd, a JG M773 shooting 380+ fps straight out of the box.

But! My new JG M4S blows both of them right the hell outta of the water & all I did was incorporate a larger battery because I hate fighting to make that shitty little 8.4v fit under the barrel.

Merely an observation of past posts, a few suggestions & some opinions.

...here endeth the rant.

[dragwindsor]

I like how I can change back to the stock spring when I want. Workin on guns is cool. For the price of my JG HK416, it seams like a great gun. Does the HK416 have the Systema clone as well? Or the TM clone?

[Savage Haggis]

Originally Posted by dragwindsor

I like how I can change back to the stock spring when I want. Workin on guns is cool. For the price of my JG HK416, it seams like a great gun. Does the HK416 have the Systema clone as well? Or the TM clone?

Sigh...

You can read, right?

Here, let me help you... http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=50930

Now I'm going to bed before I get even fuckin' grouchier...

[The Acer]

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/SpringChart.html

find a big list and the approtimately the fps it will shoot, in ur gun it may shoot faster or slower, but this is to give u an ideal fps it will shoot