JG M4A1 vs. Aftermath Kraken

[Sawstink]

If you read the thread, you would know that the fact that it is black doesn't really matter, because it would stay in the basement as a fart around gun.

And aren't the AK Iron sights easier to use than the M4's?

[pusangani]

If ur not gaming it then get the kraken it's a more economical choice

[Able1]

+1


Bud Im not trying to crush dreams.
im sure stated before, Getting age verified is key Krakens are cool last long and great but there are some really good deals on AKs on the classifieds, who knows you may wanna come out of your basement.

[theguy]

G&G rec is almost twice the price of a kracken, yes, but! heres why its worth it.

It comes with a pretty decent battery and a charger with an auto shut off feature. Kracken comes with a shit battery and a terrible charger (+/- 100 bucks to replace them with a decent battery and charger)

G&G internals and externals are much higher quality then JG, and much, much, much better then internals of Aftermath. The only issue i have found with G&G internals is the compression parts, they are not the best.


The halfbreed G&G acctually look pretty good, with a mag in from a distance, you can't even tell they aren't full black.

Just IMO, G&G is a much better buy then a aftermath or a JG, even if its just a G&G rec

[Sawstink]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

And the kraken keeps looking better and better to me, I mean, it;s just a basement gun, why drop $300 on it? I really don't think that the Kraken would bust that fast. And even if it did, have been thinking 'why get an AEG for target practice?', bringing the SD 700 (VSR 10) clone into mind

.... So... basically.... ya.

I was stupid and didn't even consider this, but there is no need for an AEG for basement-fun-target shooting.

[SuperCriollo]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

.... So... basically.... ya.

I was stupid and didn't even consider this, but there is no need for an AEG for basement-fun-target shooting.

what about an airgun?

[Sawstink]

I was thinking that too, and I already have a couple, but I figure if the time comes that I do want to game it, it would still be possible.

[theguy]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

I was thinking that too, and I already have a couple, but I figure if the time comes that I do want to game it, it would still be possible.

Its your call, but the G&G will give you many less headaches, plus, it has a warranty.

[Diabolic Tyrant]

Originally Posted by theguy

G&G rec is almost twice the price of a kracken, yes, but! heres why its worth it.

It comes with a pretty decent battery and a charger with an auto shut off feature. Kracken comes with a shit battery and a terrible charger (+/- 100 bucks to replace them with a decent battery and charger)

G&G internals and externals are much higher quality then JG, and much, much, much better then internals of Aftermath. The only issue i have found with G&G internals is the compression parts, they are not the best.


The halfbreed G&G acctually look pretty good, with a mag in from a distance, you can't even tell they aren't full black.

Just IMO, G&G is a much better buy then a aftermath or a JG, even if its just a G&G rec

I find your opinion is hard to describe. G&G is a very strong and reliable manufacturer, however their Cansoft versions are the exact opposite of their full blacks, mainly for the fact being they are made of lower quality metals (CAS versions atleast) along with the fact the plastic is very likely to crack/spider. Sure it comes with a warranty but from what ive seen from people that own krakens, they are very happy with them especially with a new body (AK74 front stock/foregrip and AK74 style rear stock) and they seem to be having less lemons (the OD version at least) than G&G and the fact that the Kraken is mostly TM compatible would already make it a 100% selling point for the fact being if i dont like whats on it i can switch it for parts made by quite possibly the best AEG manufacturer out there. Oh another the other part that destroys the G&G RK47 REC is the fact that the kraken is $150-$180 if it breaks you can return it to basspro and they will most likely refund your cash or replace it within 30 days or you can even buy 2 for less than the G&G AK. And as far as JG goes it kicks G&G's ass and hands it back to them gift wrapped with a bow tie on top. The best clone manufacturer that ive seen so far, along with CA (Full metal and wood goodness ^_^ )

[theguy]

Originally Posted by Diabolic Tyrant

I find your opinion is hard to describe. G&G is a very strong and reliable manufacturer, however their Cansoft versions are the exact opposite of their full blacks, mainly for the fact being they are made of lower quality metals (CAS versions atleast) along with the fact the plastic is very likely to crack/spider. Sure it comes with a warranty but from what ive seen from people that own krakens, they are very happy with them especially with a new body (AK74 front stock/foregrip and AK74 style rear stock) and they seem to be having less lemons (the OD version at least) than G&G and the fact that the Kraken is mostly TM compatible would already make it a 100% selling point for the fact being if i dont like whats on it i can switch it for parts made by quite possibly the best AEG manufacturer out there. Oh another the other part that destroys the G&G RK47 REC is the fact that the kraken is $150-$180 if it breaks you can return it to basspro and they will most likely refund your cash or replace it within 30 days or you can even buy 2 for less than the G&G AK. And as far as JG goes it kicks G&G's ass and hands it back to them gift wrapped with a bow tie on top. The best clone manufacturer that ive seen so far, along with CA (Full metal and wood goodness ^_^ )

Perhaps you heard me wrong.

I am not saying G&G are amazing guns, I'm saying that they are the best semi-clear/clear guns availible.

You seem to be bashing them pretty hard, I am speaking purely through my experience. my JG is a total POS, i guess i got a lemon, but it has been nothing but troubles (full back G36).

A friend of mine has an aftermath, Its really not great, clear lower/green furniture looks like ass, sure, its cheap, but in my experience, it will crap out on you so many time in so many ways, its worth it to just skip the headache and buy something else.

My G&G?
It works great, no issues at all with it, Shoots very well with a shockingly high ROF. The only thing that has broken on it so far is the lower (yea, i will admit this is a weak point in the gun) but i have metal body on the way, so that should solve that problem. Only reason the lower broke in the first place is because i fell on it...long story

When i say my oppinion, i mean my experience. Maybe You are right, and i just got really lucky with my G&G, and really unlucky with my JG, but from what i have seen first hang, G&G>JG

[Alphaj1]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

The next posts were originally seperate, but i figured triple posting would just be suicide


Ok thanks, but would a stock JG gun outlast the Kraken, even with a new gearbox?
Also, I would have no need for metal body and wood because it would just be a basement plinker, maybe it would evolve into a project gun (which I doubt)
And Long_Bong, seeing as I know that you have the Kraken and have worked on it, I guess you would know best

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Ok so from what I know, ordering guns from the US is a big no-no (so is double poting ) But from my undertainding it is ok if the gun is clearly a toy, as to not be seized at customs.

http://www.softairpro.com/airgun_gal...cat=587&page=2

SO, this IS an American site, but it sells the same gun for nearly 100$ less than 007, buyairsoft and... velocityarms I believe. I know different custom officers have different opinions, but becuase this is clear, it should make it through (shouldn't it?)

Say, if you had no access to the classifeds, would you take your chance on it?

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Guess what just came into the picture

http://velocityarms.ca/index.php?mai...roducts_id=195

I have to say, I hate the looks on these things, and the size felt to small (I'm 6'2"), but it's JG, and it's cheap

Dude, i just got the DPMS JG rebrand from a canadian site, for a fraction of the price-180 dollars. Dont buy American, clear or not.

[Sawstink]

are you serious? as in not the classifieds? could yo point me in their diriection? because I have chked 007, velocityarms, buyairsoft, and shootsoft

http://www.shootsoft.ca/clearsoft/pr...roducts_id=184

Best price I have seen so far.



And lol, the JG M4 is only $5 more than the Kraken on that site... I guess they overprice the poop, and underprice the... whatever the opposite of poop is.

[Alphaj1]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

Hmmmmmm..... this will be a head scratcher. $170 Sd700, for target shooting , easy maitenance and very very slight chance of gaming, or the JG, AEG, nott much fun to shoot targets but hey... its an AEG...

http://airgunsource.com/

more specifically,

http://www.businessvision.net/Edge/M...uct&SKU=170903

For 180, you cant beat the price. If you have 350-1500 dollars to blow on a toy then get verified.

[Sawstink]

This site is Canadian? <3 Thanks man lol

And as you can see, $1500 isn't exactly in my airsoft budget, considering that I was considering a Kraken

And since a just spent $6000 on stuff for my band :O

[Alphaj1]

Originally Posted by Sawstink

This site is Canadian? <3 Thanks man lol

And as you can see, $1500 isn't exactly in my airsoft budget, considering that I was considering a Kraken

And since a just spent $6000 on stuff for my band :O

Canadian my friend-yeah, 1500 would buy me a nice PRS