What is CANSOFT?

[M_P]

Not to mention a COLLASAL waste of money. Paintballers only gut Airsoft guns for milsim guns when they can get them cheap and probably broken.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by BloodDrinker

if you want a full metal gun do what many piantballers do to get a cool gun for milsim paint ball how ever instead of turning an airsoft gun into a paintball gun turn a real gun into an airsoft gun it's actually less illegal then making an airsoft gun that looks real

i do applaud ICS and G&G for doing what they can to help Canadian airsoft players express they're right to happiness under the brutal rule of the Canadian government

I would suggest highly against that... extreme modification of a firearm plus with later change to automatic...sounds like they can charge you for modifying guns to prohibited devices. That will make yourself a headline of the town for a while and a nice spot in jail

[surkon]

Ok, so in Canada the only legal airsoft gun is one with clear parts. I understand that much. Ive done a fair share of reaserch and now own a G&G clearsoft gun. But now reading this thread and other threads here on ASC im wondering where all these full metal non clear guns are coming from?

[Affliction]

Originally Posted by surkon

Ok, so in Canada the only legal airsoft gun is one with clear parts. I understand that much. Ive done a fair share of reaserch and now own a G&G clearsoft gun. But now reading this thread and other threads here on ASC im wondering where all these full metal non clear guns are coming from?

Years ago, clearsoft was not tolerated under any circumstance and stating how awesome it was simply lit the fire beneath your feet. During this period, (ah the golden age of ridiculous prices), there were quite a few retailers that sold mainstream brands such as TM, G&P, ICS, and WA. However, CBSA eventually began cracking down on these 'illegal' sales and retailers closed both voluntarily and involuntarily.

We still have retailers that sell these guns at a much more reasonable price as well as used guns in the AV classifieds. Getting age verified greatly increases the availability of good quality airsoft guns.

As for this new G&G Clear crap, I'll never believe the quality is on par with my G&P. In fact, G&G was always the 'inferior' brand of the known brands (Usually issues with the internals). While I'm not saying the body's material makes the gun, I know Ken (like other retailers) likes to make money; mcguyver brings up some very good points.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by surkon

Ok, so in Canada the only legal airsoft gun is one with clear parts. I understand that much. Ive done a fair share of reaserch and now own a G&G clearsoft gun. But now reading this thread and other threads here on ASC im wondering where all these full metal non clear guns are coming from?

For the most part, non-clear guns are illeal to import, not illegal to own (they're in the "grey area" for ownership).

Some retailers can still bring in black metal bodies through some method or another. There are ways, they're just out of reach of most of us.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Fury

As for this new G&G Clear crap, I'll never believe the quality is on par with my G&P.

Of course it's not on par with G&P: a whole different, significantly more expensive brand. No one's asking you to believe such a ridiculous idea.

Mcguyver's problem is that he doesn't believe it's internally even on par with G&G itself. I'd like to remind both side of that debate no one has done a proper internal review of the cansoft G&G yet, so the jury is still out on it.

I do not want a battle of speculation to break out, all it does is confuse newbies.

Originally Posted by kalnaren

For the most part, non-clear guns are illeal to import, not illegal to own (they're in the "grey area" for ownership).

There is no grey area. Legal to own by individuals, illegal to import/acquire is a fact. Only spotty implementation makes it seem "grey".

[PaganThunder]

So Quick question, as someone who is just getting into AirSoft, if I was to walk on to a field with a $200 "clear" gun, would I get laughed off the field, or do people use them?

[TokyoSeven]

Originally Posted by PaganThunder

So Quick question, as someone who is just getting into AirSoft, if I was to walk on to a field with a $200 "clear" gun, would I get laughed off the field, or do people use them?

That is a hard question to answer, Im not going to lie though. The truth is yes, people will laugh, but any decent human being wouldn't do it to your face and keep it to themselves in an attempt to be respectful. However this is not always the case, the majority of the airsoft community out there understands that not everyone has unlimited fortunes and wealth to invest into airsoft and people will use what they can afford. Now there are elitist jerks out there that do just the opposite, bragging about what they have and how much it cost at every given moment.

If you are that self conscious about having a clear gun, than I have a very simple 5 dollar solution for you. Its available at many local stores. Its called spray paint. Specifically I recommend the solid flat black thats available in the Krylon Camo line. The other alternative is to simply save up and purchase a non clear gun.

[PaganThunder]

Thank you for your reply.

Is painting the guns allowed (as in is it legal in Canada)?

I would hate to end up losing a $200 investment by using a $5 solution. I have seen some amazing paint jobs in some of the forums, but none of them say if the gun was originally a "clear" gun.

I have, in the past, done paint jobs on paintball markers for others and have done a pretty fair job, imho.

[TokyoSeven]

You should be fine with painting your airsoft gun.

The short and quick of airsoft in Canada is, you can have one, you just cant import one. Although I believe in Ontario there is actually a law that states 18 to purchase, anyways that is the short and sweet, in reality its way more complicated.

In the USA in some states airsoft guns require an orange tip to identify them. That is not the case here in Canada. Treat your airsoft gun as if it were a real fire arm, proper storage and transportation techniques and you should be fine.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by PaganThunder

Thank you for your reply.

Is painting the guns allowed (as in is it legal in Canada)?

I would hate to end up losing a $200 investment by using a $5 solution. I have seen some amazing paint jobs in some of the forums, but none of them say if the gun was originally a "clear" gun.

I have, in the past, done paint jobs on paintball markers for others and have done a pretty fair job, imho.

Generally you're allowed to have non-clear airsoft guns. The rule of thumb is don't do anything stupid with it. As T7 said, treat it as a real firearm.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by PaganThunder

So Quick question, as someone who is just getting into AirSoft, if I was to walk on to a field with a $200 "clear" gun, would I get laughed off the field, or do people use them?

In the past.. yes.. but the quality of clear receiver guns have improved to the point that functionaly they can be on par with stock black receiver guns.

Suggestion.. if you do get a clear gun... also get a can of black Krylon paint and paint it... then you can do the laughing.. at all the guys that shelled out hundreds more for a gun that shoots no better.

To me .. I could care less of you gun is clear.. the BBs hit the same.

Lots of people get in to "airsoft" via clear guns.. and once they get into the community a bit they gain access to better guns.

Very good full metal replicas are available ... for a price.

[SnakeEyesAAS]

OK so can the ICS and Classic Army clear recevers just be swopped out for the Company's metal body? or other makers metal body?

[pipefitter316]

Originally Posted by PaganThunder

So Quick question, as someone who is just getting into AirSoft, if I was to walk on to a field with a $200 "clear" gun, would I get laughed off the field, or do people use them?

when i started i used the clearsoft stuff i now have upgraded but i wouldnt laugh at someone who showsup at a game with clearsoft, i would however tell him or her that they should upgrade to something that is at least comparable to what is being used at games. I ve play with guys that bragged about how great their gun were and they were the first one hit. I would welcome you to a game cuase the best thing about airsoft is meeting new people and enjoying yourself. By the way both my guns cost $200 and nobody laughed at me and i have quite well with them.

[PaganThunder]

I have been looking around at the various and sundry AirSoft photo sites, and I have yet to spot anyone using "Clear Soft" or even "Can Soft" guns, this is why I asked about "getting laughed off the field". I imagine that some of the photos have actually been of these types of guns that have had good paint jobs done on them.

The Gun I picked up is a Jing Gong DPMS A-15 Panther with the Clear Body, I have yet to use this for anything other than scaring the trees in the orchard, but I am so far quite happy with it. I have in the past had some of the "Crap Soft" from Can Tire, and still pull some of this out when my sons and I feel like "goofing" around. (Goofing around as in doing attack/defend on the wood shed, we always use safety equipment.)