Bioval BBBMAX Airsoft Ammunition

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by MADDOG

When they start coming out with eye protection made from windshield glass, then I will become concerned.

I pretty much echo what Maddog says here. Be mindful if you're near any window glass or autoglass you don't want broken as thats a proven problem, but beyond that I don't have any concerns - other than they are BIO-NEUTRAL, they are not BIO-DEGRADABLE. Don't confuse the two - that was my beef with BioVAL's website. My initial problems were getting reasonably unbiased information about the product, but through product samples, I've been able to determine it is almost pure silica (as I had said in another thread).

You'll shortly have a Bastard version of this, available this spring. Stay tuned.

[SINN]

i thought you already had little glass bastard balls lol


Sounds good jay. I will be holding out for your version.

[Schlyder]

Scarecrow, will they be clear as well, or will they have color?

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Schlyder

Scarecrow, will they be clear as well, or will they have color?

Clear - identical makeup and color (or transparency) of the BioVAL versions. Since they are pure silica with a polished surface, its a relatively simple product actually. There are definitely unique performance characteristics to this particular material - but whether those are desirable or not is up to you guys.

Originally Posted by SINN

Sounds good jay. I will be holding out for your version.

I've always tried to carried whatever you guys wanted, its just a question of determining risks. Those are printed on my bags - just look at the ECOBBs - storage and mesh goggle warnings. I'll put similar glass warnings on these (ie: don't shoot at glass). Based on what I've seen Pus do here (an unbiased local airsofter who I've met before), I think these simple tests address many of my concerns and now that I know what they are made of (for sure) and done my own tests, I don't have an issue with the materials and goggles - but auto and window glass is still a concern.

I would still put the warning there about your feedpath - these f**kers are HARD and will wear your feedpath components, possibly, prematurely. I don't have evidence for it but I am speculating just based on what I've seen steel BBs do to a feedpath and in respect to the plastic components of a typical AEG, short of steel, these are the hardest BBs you can run through your system. I may sacrifice a couple of Krakens to test this theory.

[Spawn28]

Well if BB Bastard sells em ill buy em

[Scarecrow]

Well, over 100 sample bags were distributed at TAC10 of the Clears. So far I understand from 2 players who've actually gamed them, and they like them so far. I am sure reviews will follow, so I won't go into detail.

It will be up to field owners and players to decide if they want to use this product or not, but there will be a good supply of it this summer. Just check with your host before you take it out to the field.

[pusangani]

I didn't get a chance to grab one mysElf but I took a look at some over at the CAPS table, they do look very nice, I will have to get some and try them out

[Sim123456]

In what material are they made? And could you say they sit between plastic bbs and aluminium bbs? (harder of the bb)

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by Sim123456

In what material are they made? And could you say they sit between plastic bbs and aluminium bbs? (harder of the bb)

its been said like a gazillion time in this page alone that they are 100% pure silica, IE glass

[Sim123456]

Thank you, I admited that I didn't read completly and so your answer is even more welcome, thank you

[BlackRain]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

its been said like a gazillion time in this page alone that they are 100% pure silica, IE glass

Quit being so damn ignorant .... all the guy did was ask a simple question.

[TokyoSeven]

Glass is simply a form silica can take. Silica it self is primarily found in nature as quartz, which due to physical and chemical weathering processes like jointing and dissolution; quartz usually ends up as a primary component in sand. Sorry I just felt like tossing in some random info on Silica.

[Skladfin]

Thank you Pus,

you told it like it is.

Don't see that happening anymore these days.

[Sim123456]

If they are made in silica, could there be a danger of developing silicose disease? Kiding ;|

[Sha Do]

As I have stated in another thread, I am going to be cautious when I field test the silica BBs. I have spoken with several players who are using them and so far there has been no incidents reported, but my concern is that the hardness of the silica BBs (may they be BB Bastard or Bioval brands) in that the BB itself does not have any type of "give". Therefore upon impact with something hard (goggles, bone (forehead, knuckles)) the transfer of kinetic energy will be higher compared to BBs that easily squish, flatten, or even shatter upon impact.
This is why we don't use/allow aluminum BBs onto the field (they are strictly for plinking or match shooting), and in comparison, the silica BBs are actually harder than aluminum BBs, but fortunately much lighter (ie, the base calculation for calculating joules and kinetic energy requires the weight factor as well as speed, and with the silica BBs being 60% lighter than typical aluminum BBs, the result will be lower numbers).

-Using them for 350 fps CQB??? Probably not a good idea.
-General field use?? Still in deliberation.
-Sniping with enforced MED?? This is what I'm going to focus on, as obviously the silica BBs have a huge "stealth" advantage over conventional white BBs. Though I suspect that those that have issues tracking shots with the graphite coated or coloured BBs (tan Green OD, black) will have more difficulty using these to snipe.

SHA DO