Battery upgrades for G&G with full stock

Shaun655 · July 7th, 2009, 14:33

I am currently looking to upgrade the battery in my G&G GR16 A3. The gun is upgraded to 423fps and its consuming more juice, so its time to upgrade the battery to get a full day out of it. The gun came with a peak charger for 9.6v Nimh and I want to continue to use it for the time being. What I want to know is feedback from anyone that has upgraded their G&G's battery, but retained the stock charger.

The place I am looking to order from is www.cheapbatterypacks.com I was debating going for the Elite 9.6v 4000mah or the 5000mah, and I believe it uses the small female tamiya connector to work with the G&G, but if its another connector type please let me know. I saw G&G offers a 4400mah that the stock charger supports, but it costs 87.00Can instead of 50.00 and lower for an Elite pack.

Thanks to those of you who share your advice with myself and others

theguy · July 7th, 2009, 14:42

Elite cells are the best you can get.

I have a feeling the charger will keep working, but your in a wierd spot for the connectors.

The G&G Chargers and batteries use a mini Tamiya size. I think the actual plug in the back of the stock is a large tamiya, with an adapter on it to let you use the smaller size.

your best bet? Buy the Elite 4000 or 5000 pack with a large tamiya connector. Also add an extra set of connectors and a little bit of 16 AWG wire to your order, then build an adapter to let you use the battery with your charger.

Shaun655 · July 7th, 2009, 14:47

How important are the connectors? they current pack is 9.6v and so would the new one, the only difference in the two being greater charge capacity, is that right? If so could I not order one of their packs with a small female connector rather then trying to make an adapter?

theguy · July 7th, 2009, 14:48

Yes, you could do that, the one downside though, is that there are essentially no other guns that use a large size battery with a small size connector.

That being said, if you only plan to use it for your current gun, then go nuts.

Shaun655 · July 7th, 2009, 14:55

Thanks for the advice, it helps a lot. I think I will go with the small connector since I don't have any plans to get another gun for sometime, and when I do I will most likely choose another G&G with a full stock as I couldn't be any happier with my current one.

theguy · July 7th, 2009, 14:57

Glad to help, hope it works out for you

m102404 · July 7th, 2009, 15:01

There's a battery FAQ ....and I believe that it speaks to the capacity of different sized connectors. Basically...for mini batteries, mini connectors are fine...for larger batteries, use larger ones.

Manufacturers use mini connectors on everything because they are cheap.

Put a big battery through an upgraded gun and you'll be beyond the capacity of the small connector. Causes heat. The way Tamiya plugs get loosened up over time, I've seen guns with melted plugs.

Switch to large plugs...or DEANs. You can make an adaptor for your charger. You really should get a decent charger if you want you batteries to perform at the max potential.

Or...don't sweat it and just replace things as you need to.

coach · July 7th, 2009, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404

Manufacturers use mini connectors on everything because they are cheap.

Put a big battery through an upgraded gun and you'll be beyond the capacity of the small connector. Causes heat. The way Tamiya plugs get loosened up over time, I've seen guns with melted plugs.

oddly, two of my AEG's (MP5/M4) have mini to large extensions in the full stock for use with a large battery.

I have since switched to deans on everything.

m102404 · July 7th, 2009, 15:44

I believe that they do that for expediency's sake. On MP5's they add an extension to reroute the wiring to the front and a large connector on the rear would be too big. On an M4/M16...same thing re. space available if they want to run a collapsible stock. Same on an AK...small connector fits through the receiver to the stock easier.

For all of those...all they need is a bucket of small to large extensions and they're ready to knock out which ever model they need. Faster to do it easy than to do it right (i.e. no intermediate connector...straight wired).

Large batteries have large connectors for a reason. Sticking a small connector in there defeats the purpose.

But again...you don't have to change it...it just works everything harder and robs performance.

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July 7th, 2009, 14:33	#1
Shaun655 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wasaga Beach	Battery upgrades for G&G with full stock I am currently looking to upgrade the battery in my G&G GR16 A3. The gun is upgraded to 423fps and its consuming more juice, so its time to upgrade the battery to get a full day out of it. The gun came with a peak charger for 9.6v Nimh and I want to continue to use it for the time being. What I want to know is feedback from anyone that has upgraded their G&G's battery, but retained the stock charger. The place I am looking to order from is www.cheapbatterypacks.com I was debating going for the Elite 9.6v 4000mah or the 5000mah, and I believe it uses the small female tamiya connector to work with the G&G, but if its another connector type please let me know. I saw G&G offers a 4400mah that the stock charger supports, but it costs 87.00Can instead of 50.00 and lower for an Elite pack. Thanks to those of you who share your advice with myself and others

July 7th, 2009, 14:55	#5
Shaun655 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wasaga Beach	Thanks to TheGuy Thanks for the advice, it helps a lot. I think I will go with the small connector since I don't have any plans to get another gun for sometime, and when I do I will most likely choose another G&G with a full stock as I couldn't be any happier with my current one.

July 7th, 2009, 14:47	#3
Shaun655 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wasaga Beach	How important are the connectors? they current pack is 9.6v and so would the new one, the only difference in the two being greater charge capacity, is that right? If so could I not order one of their packs with a small female connector rather then trying to make an adapter?

July 7th, 2009, 15:01	#7
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	There's a battery FAQ ....and I believe that it speaks to the capacity of different sized connectors. Basically...for mini batteries, mini connectors are fine...for larger batteries, use larger ones. Manufacturers use mini connectors on everything because they are cheap. Put a big battery through an upgraded gun and you'll be beyond the capacity of the small connector. Causes heat. The way Tamiya plugs get loosened up over time, I've seen guns with melted plugs. Switch to large plugs...or DEANs. You can make an adaptor for your charger. You really should get a decent charger if you want you batteries to perform at the max potential. Or...don't sweat it and just replace things as you need to.

July 7th, 2009, 15:44	#9
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I believe that they do that for expediency's sake. On MP5's they add an extension to reroute the wiring to the front and a large connector on the rear would be too big. On an M4/M16...same thing re. space available if they want to run a collapsible stock. Same on an AK...small connector fits through the receiver to the stock easier. For all of those...all they need is a bucket of small to large extensions and they're ready to knock out which ever model they need. Faster to do it easy than to do it right (i.e. no intermediate connector...straight wired). Large batteries have large connectors for a reason. Sticking a small connector in there defeats the purpose. But again...you don't have to change it...it just works everything harder and robs performance.

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